We don't need to "look for" new energy sources

[SHRED]

We already have alternatives. We don't need to "look for". We need to develop.
Instead of huge oil, coal, and nuclear corporation subsidies let's use those tax dollars towards developing hydrogen, solar, wind, algae biomass, industrial hemp, etc...
We need a President with the courage to spell out a green "Apollo" type project that our country can get behind. One where our government invests in clean/sustainable energy and cleaning up the environment. Government investment and tax incentives jump starts all projects of this magnitude. High quality jobs and improved economy will follow.
Why not base our livelihoods on cleaning things up for our children's children instead of the current destructive cycles we are in?
God knows there is enough work out there!

I heard Obama give a very detailed speech a couple of years ago about this.
He is the right President for these times.
McCain is not.


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[Saturday]

1. Right on....

and it can start with plasma gasification that takes our garbage and turns it into energy. Let's get going.

[jimshoes]

2. Imagine where we'd be if we'd invested

all those Iraq billions into alternative energy. I wonder if we'd still be seeing $140.00 per barrel oil prices? There were several paths this admin could have taken. This administration chose poorly. But then their whole agenda from day one was to steal and pillage the Treasury and enrich themselves and their friends. In that regard, they've done pretty well. The country and the world suffers for it though.

[frogcycle]

3. precisely

reduced to the simplest terms, the ONLY energy sources for this rock spinning in space are:

solar rays hitting it
solar rays passing nearby, which might be captured and beamed in
residual heat from the planet's formation
potential energy released in decay of certain radioactive elements

and the last two are actually the aftereffects of ancient stellar deaths

wind, tides, hydro, solar cells, biofuel, fossil fuel are ALL just ways to harness solar energy. The fossil fuel is there because it collected over long periods of time, so there is a reservoir. It is finite, will be gone eventually. The rest are means of collecting solar energy concurrently. We have a choice of using the fossil fuels until there is no more available, despoiling the planet in the process, or biting the bullet and going on the pay-as-you-go plan. We can make that choice, or we can be pigs and leave it to future generations to struggle with our legacy.

There really is no rational argument favoring the "drill more" crowd. It is only postponing the inevitable, but messing things up more in the interim. Whatever the difficulty in weaning our global economy from burning fossil fuel, it is LESS difficult now than it will be when the population is larger.

If one believes in the myth of humans being somehow superior beings, "made in god's image," entrusted with this planet to live on, procreate, and do "god's work" then how can one POSSIBLY think that expanding the population until there is no room to sit down, screwing up the landscape and atmosphere fulfills that trust?

Those thinking short term of their own enrichment say drill more. A lot of people living in denial support them.

[tama]

5. Yeah

And no technology can beat photosyntesis, Nature herself. Garden Earth, anybody?

[4dsc]

4. How many are alternatives to OIL???

I don't see any of these so called alternatives "hydrogen, solar, wind, algae biomass, industrial hemp" amounting to little more than a small percentage of our total needs we get from oil... Not even close..

[tama]

6. True

Regarding the matters of scale, I wouldn't bet that die-off can be avoided. So let's deal with it.

[kristopher]

7. Biofuels for heavy equipment; battery electric for personal trans= 99% replacement of oil

[frogcycle]

11. where's the electricity come from?

[SHRED]

9. combined they can I believe, and...

...check this out:

Energy Farming in America
by Lynn Osburn

http://www.hemp4fuel.com/link.html

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[QueenOfCalifornia]

8. K&R

Great post Shred. Glad to see you back. Hope you are feeling better. :pals:

[madokie]

10. Theres no doubt about that

what we need at this point is a leader who agrees with us. I think for the most part Obama does. I know it sure feels good feeling good about voting for him, he'll be a great President. imo