TEPCO:Don't expect quake-hit plant to restart '08/09

[bananas]

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIndustryMaterialsUtilitiesNews/idUSTKF00325520080728

TEPCO:Don't expect quake-hit plant to restart '08/09
Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:20am EDT

TOKYO, July 28 (Reuters) - Tokyo Electric Power Co (9501.T: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) (TEPCO), Asia's biggest utility, said on Monday its earnings forecasts for the year to March 2009 were based on the premise that it would not be restarting its quake-hit Kashiwazaki-Kariwa nuclear power plant.

TEPCO said it expected its nuclear power plants to operate at an average of about 43 percent of their capacity in the year to next March, compared with 44.9 percent in the year ended on March 31.

Its run rate has stayed low after it was forced to indefinitely shut down its Kashiwazaki-Kariwa plant, the world's largest, in northwestern Japan, after a powerful earthquake on July 16, 2007.

The run rate was 74.2 percent in the year ended March 2007, before the shutdown of the plant. (Reporting by Osamu Tsukimori)

[NNadir]

1. I note that you have not a word to say about the people who died from dangerous fossil fuels

that replaced the plant since you've been cheering for the earthquake.

NOT ONE word.

Ten people were killed by the earthquake, all from falling buildings none from the reactor, and in your endless cheering for this earthquake, you have not written ONE post calling for the banning of buildings, NOT ONE.

Ah fuck it though. You have what you fucking want, 400 ppm of dangerous fossil fuel in the atmosphere.

It's useless to bother with the provincial crap in this hole though.

Congratulations. You must be very proud. Heckuva job.

Why don't you all gather around the fucking Solar Pool Light and talk about your deep concern for humanity and raise a glass of Allen's coffee brandy to toast - if you get drunk enough to actually give a shit - http://www.who.int/quantifying_ehimpacts/countryprofilesebd.xls">2.3 million who died in 2002 alone while you were gazing at your navel trying to find some more lint to pick?

[AndyTiedye]

2. Are You Suggesting that TEPCO Start Up Their Damaged Plant?

or do you just think we should not talk about what happens to nuclear power plants in in earthquake?

[monomach]

4. I'm pretty sure that earthquake would've broken solar panels and wind turbines, too.

That earthquake would've fucked up any power plant in that spot. The fact that it is nuclear has nothing to do with it, so this thread is kind of a weak attack on nuclear power.

[Finishline42]

6. That's a good point

So just tear down the plants, recycle the debris and build a new one...

That's what I would do with quake damaged solar panels and windmills.

[bananas]

8. Nope.

UCSD put a windmill on a shake-table and subjected it to the ground-motion of several large earthquakes,
including the magnitude 7.3 Landers quake. It didn't break.
http://www.jacobsschool.ucsd.edu/news/news_releases/release.sfe?id=313
http://nees.ucsd.edu/

You can build a windmill or nuclear plant to withstand any size earthquake.
The problem is that this nuclear plant was only designed to withstand a 6.5 quake,
but it was hit with a 6.8 quake.
If it was hit with a 7.3 or larger quake, it could have resulted in a large release of radiation,
and another "exclusion zone" like the one at Chernobyl.

To get these reactors online, not only do they have to repair any damage,
they also have to reinforce them to withstand much larger quakes than they
were originally designed for - and that might not be possible.

[monomach]

13. That shake-table test is kind of a load of crap.

It assumes all land is created equal.

In the real world, the moisture and mineral composition of the land beneath you drastically affects just how much you shake. We don't know if the power plant was 6.8. We just know that the area tested was 6.8 during that same quake.

[bananas]

9. Here's a Japanese website covering the issue

Earthquakes and Nuclear Power
Compilation by CNIC of articles, public statements, media releases, etc. dealing with the problems that earthquakes pose for nuclear power.
http://cnic.jp/english/topics/safety/earthquake/index.html

Other nuclear power issues are on their home page:
Citizens' Nuclear Information Center
http://cnic.jp/english/

[Arctic Dave]

3. are you not feeling well?

Usually I enjoy reading your, we'll just call it "debate" for ease. Today, however, you seemed to have phoned this one in. I mean really, is this the best reply you can muster?

[madokie]

5. So you're saying you want to have a big assed party at my house

Hell for that one I'd happily give you directions,;-). In fact we have a non birthday party planned for saturaday so bring your ass on you'd be welcome. Be serving what I would bet would be the best damn ham you've ever eat too.


Whenever you decide to settle down and have discussions without all the bullshit thrown in I and I bet a lot of people here would like to pick your brain somewhat, all with no bruising allowed either, mind you. But its all your call

[Finishline42]

7. Is 74.2% a good number for nuclear plants?

Seems low to me.

[NickB79]

10. Odd to have a smily-face in a post

That is essentially saying "we're going to be burning coal and natural gas into the foreseeable future until the nuclear power plant is repaired."

Why are you smiling about more CO2 being released into the atmosphere?

[struggle4progress]

11. Um ... the headline was formatted on the website as "TEPCO:Don't"

If a space had been inserted to the right of the : the post would have properly read "TEPCO: Don't"
But unless emoticons are disabled when posting, DU software recognizes :D as a smilie

[bananas]

12. Yes, I didn't notice it until after the editing period expired. nt

[NickB79]

14. Ah, ok

Sorry, my bad.