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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:48 AM
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Renewable energy is attracting Wall Street (and nuclear isn't - k)
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Renewable energy is attracting Wall Street


Capitalists have already scuttled Patrick Moore’s claimed nuclear revival. New U.S. subsidies of about $13 billion per plant (roughly a plant’s capital cost) haven’t lured Wall Street to invest. Instead, the decentralized competitors to nuclear power that Moore derides are making more global electricity than nuclear plants are, and are growing 20 to 40 times faster.

In 2007, decentralized renewables worldwide attracted $71 billion in private capital. Nuclear got zero. Why? Economics. The nuclear construction costs that Moore omits are astronomical and soaring; low fuel costs will soon rise two-to fivefold. “Negawatts”—saved electricity—cost five to 10 times less and are getting cheaper. So are most renewables. Negawatts and “micro-power”— renewables other than big hydro, and cogenerating electricity together with useful heat—are also at or near customers, avoiding grid costs, losses and failures (which cause 98 to 99 percent of blackouts).

The unreliability of renewable energy is a myth, while the unreliability of nuclear energy is real. Of all U.S. nuclear plants built, 21 percent were abandoned as lemons; 27 percent have failed for a year or more at least once. Even successful reactors must close for refueling every 17 months for 39 days. And when shut by grid failure, they can’t quickly restart. Wind farms don’t do that.

Variable but forecastable renewables (wind and solar cells) are very reliable when integrated with each other, existing supplies and demand. For example, three German states were more than 30 percent wind-powered in 2007—and more than 100 percent in some months. Mostly renewable power generally needs less backup than utilities already bought to combat big coal and nuclear plants’ intermittence.

Micropower delivers a sixth of total global electricity, a third of all new electricity and from a sixth to more than half of all electricity in 12 industrial countries (in the United States it’s only 6 percent). In 2006, the global net capacity added by nuclear power was only 83 percent of that added by solar cells, 10 percent that of wind power and 3 percent that of micropower. China’s distributed renewables grew to seven times its nuclear capacity and grew seven times faster. In 2007, the United States, China and Spain each added more wind capacity than the world added nuclear capacity. Wind power added 30 percent of new U.S. and 40 percent of EU capacity, because it’s two to three times cheaper than new nuclear power. Which part of this doesn’t Moore understand?

The punch line: nuclear expansion buys two to 10 times less climate protection per dollar, far slower than its winning competitors. Spending a dollar on new nuclear power rather than on negawatts thus has a worse climate effect than spending that dollar on new coal power. Attention, Dr. Moore: you’re making climate change worse.

Lovins is chairman and chief scientist of Rocky Mountain Institute. An expanded version of this essay is available at rmi.org.

Link to original pdf at link: http://jagadees.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/renewable-energy-is-attracting-wall-street/

Edited to add: Link at original is broken, try this:
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid467.php

Forget Nuclear

By Amory B. Lovins, Imran Sheikh, and Alex Markevich

Correction Appended

Nuclear power, we’re told, is a vibrant industry that’s dramatically reviving because it’s proven, necessary, competitive, reliable, safe, secure, widely used, increasingly popular, and carbon-free—a perfect replacement for carbon-spewing coal power. New nuclear plants thus sound vital for climate protection, energy security, and powering a growing economy.

There’s a catch, though: the private capitalmarket isn’t investing in new nuclear plants, and without financing, capitalist utilities aren’t buying. The few purchases, nearly all in Asia, are all made by central planners with a draw on the public purse. In the United States, even government subsidies approaching or exceeding new nuclear power’s total cost have failed to entice Wall Street.

This non-technical summary article compares the cost, climate protection potential, reliability, financial risk, market success, deployment speed, and energy contribution of new nuclear power with those of its low- or no-carbon competitors. It explains why soaring taxpayer subsidies aren’t attracting investors. Capitalists instead favor climate-protecting competitors with less cost, construction time, and financial risk. The nuclear industry claims it has no serious rivals, let alone those competitors—which, however, already outproduce nuclear power worldwide and are growing enormously faster.

Most remarkably, comparing all options’ ability to protect the earth’s climate and enhance energy security reveals why nuclear power could never deliver these promised benefits even if it could find free-market buyers—while its carbon-free rivals, which won $71 billion of private investment in 2007 alone, do offer highly effective climate and security solutions, sooner, with greater confidence.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:10 AM
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1. Nnewcuelur power is safe and affordable. I heard it here.
Too bad there's no such thing as Nnewcuelur power, 'cause it sounds great.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:02 AM
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2. speaking of renewables, Sunday While on the hiway I seen the largest yet
blade for a wind turbine, that I've seen. This sucker looked every bit of 200 ft long at least, possibly more. I love seeing them on the hiway as I know its yet another one and once finished I adore seeing them waving in the breeze.
The nuclear industry scares the living daylights out of me and its not just the Radioactive component either. The industry as a whole seems to have a problem with truth. Rather than tell us the facts as they are they want to mislead and omit like they know some of the shit they spew is less than honest and they sure don't want us to find the truth out about it. A good indicator of what I'm saying is sometime ask where and what about the radioactive waste and what to do with it and see what you get. You will be called names, hear lots of obfuscation and be outright lied too and if you call bull on any of it then its hell to pay. Its almost as if some ones doesn't want any discussions on any of it, just let us have our nuclear plants and I promise you everything will be a ok. I don't buy it, I've been bullshitted for far too many years to fall for it yet again.

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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:04 PM
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4. I see them transporting the blades through Houston, sometimes.
Usually, it's early morning, before traffic gets too bad. I'm lousy at estimating distances or lengths, but these pretty damn long! Long enough that about fifteen feet of the tips were flexing as they drove. It's always a cool sight when I spot them or get to drive alongside :)

I don't know if they are being manufactured here or if they are being shipped in.

I have yet to see any in operation in person, though.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:58 AM
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7. You've put your finger on the major constraint to terrestrial wind power.
Onshore turbines are limited to a max of about 2MW (80-100meter diameter) nameplate capacity by the size of the rotors that can be transported overland. Offshore they are building them dockside and putting them directly on ships so that limit is avoided. The latest technology is at 7MW (125-130 meter diameter.
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ElectricGrid Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 11:54 AM
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3. can someone direct me to the good explaination of the
nuke capital subsidies that this article mentions?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:57 PM
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5. I don't have a link handy
The main subsidy is federal loan guarantees for 80% of the loan.
The Congressional Budget Office says the risk of default is very high, well over 50%.
This will be billions in taxpayer bail-outs.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:03 AM
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8. The paragraph at the end of the article (second link of OP)
...says it has a link to a detailed paper with full notes:
Mr. Lovins, a physicist, is cofounder, Chairman, and Chief Scientist of Rocky Mountain Institute, where Mr. Sheikh is a Research Analyst and Dr. Markevich is a Vice President. Mr. Lovins has consulted for scores of electric utilities, many of them nuclear operators. The authors are grateful to their colleague Dr. Joel Swisher PE for insightful comments and to many cited and uncited sources for research help. A technical paper preprinted for the September 2008 Ambio (Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences) supports this summary with full details and documentation (www.rmi.org/sitepages/ pid257.php#E08-01). RMI’s annual compilation of global micropower data from industrial and governmental sources has been updated through 2006, and in many cases through 2007, at www.rmi. org/sitepages/pid256.php#E05-04.

http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid467.php

Link to Ambio paper: http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/ pid257.php#E08-01
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 08:06 PM
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6. Wow! BeJEEBUS! WALL STREET WISDOM!!!!!!! TREMENDULOIUSIC!
AMERICAN BUSINESSMEN ARE SO WISALACIOUSIOUS.

Take for instance, Pfizer, that fired every medicinal chemist in the State of Michigan because Wall Street said it had a "new paradigm" for discovering drugs.

Let's take a look at the portfolios of our savy Pfizer investors who were trumpeting the "new way" of discovering drugs back in the days that Pfizer was gobbling up old companies like UpJohn, Searle, Parke Davis, Warner Lambert and spitting them out in dumb MBA "Wall Street" wisdom.



Personally, I felt we would never need doctors again, or health care of any kind, because, well, you know, Wall Street is so fucking wise.

It's why we have an MBA President.

And then there's that hot safe stock, GM, they of the Hydrogen Hummer.

And then there's that great triumph of capitalism, the exponentially growing superdelicious BESTEST Enviromentalisticallyicacious Wallmart, that decided that driving a Hummer - that someday, I swear will be a hydrogen Hummer, twenty miles to get thumbtacks and sink washers was a much "greener" approach than having small local businesses in walkable communities.

It should hardly surprise anyone that the worshipers of the right wing Greenwasher Amory Lovins should start getting all misty eyed of Rupert Murdoch's mouthpiece, the Wall Street journal over the dumb blabbering of MBA's with history degrees, but there is NOT ONE anti-nuke, NOT ONE, who knows shit from Shinola about science.

Two years ago "Wall Street" was rushing into ethanol refineries. Heckuva job. It's fortunate that the entire anti-nuke community consists of brats living on family estates and trust funds, and its good that they're trust funds, because all those twirps would be broke now, if they actually lived the bullshit they talk.

I think I'll go pray to Saint T. Boone Pickens of the Cross, and his giant mystical whooping crane blenders in Texas. I just know God will reward me with stock options, inherited lands, and, of course, other dividends if I just pray to this great and wise God.

Hows that Iogen stock doing boys? Last I looked the world wasn't awash in cellulosic ethanol. I hope your Moms didn't let you take too big a position in that game, but I'm sure Mom's get a good part of your portfolios in Exxon, so don't sweat your little yuppie heads.

Twirps.
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