Salt Water As A Fuel...

[DogPoundPup]

Possible salt water clean fuel invention? ...

http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=8159

[gristy]

1. Oh, please

Do you have any self-respect?

[drm604]

2. It takes energy to generate the radio waves.

I guarantee you that the energy you get by burning the released gases is less than the energy it took to create the radio waves. There's no net energy gain with this.

[ret5hd]

3. You can still edit this and save yourself some embarrassment.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. Oh geez not this again.... for crissakes.... hey look at the

science behind this for a minute.....

www.blacklightpower.com

http://www.millsian.com/molecules/alkalimetals.shtml

http://www.millsian.com/flash/lithium2x2.shtml

[jberryhill]

8. Is Randall Mills powering his lab with his own energy machine yet?

No?

Dang.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

9. Aren't you going to feel silly in a couple of years. n/t

[jberryhill]

10. Not as silly as the people who've been sinking money into it for years already /nt

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. He no doubt has his critics and so have many others who have

shaken the tree of traditional dogma.



http://blogs.livemint.com/blogs/labrats/archive/2008/10/24/mills-god-or-fraud.aspx


>>Of course it is suspicious that all of Mr Mills' experiments were done in his laboratory, and the latest independent validation comes from a certain Rowan University (never heard of them before), however Andreas Rathke, a physicist at the European Space Agency, and Mills' strongest critic says that Mills theories are a result of a whole lot of mathematical mistakes and wrong, primarily because of their mathematical inconsistentency.

By that reasoning, Einstein's theory of general relativity was wrong from the outset. Because after he published that work in 1916, mathematicians such as Mercel Grossman (his friend at the Swiss Patent Office) and Tullio-Levi-Civita, an Italian mathematician had to fix mathematicial inconsistencies in his work between 1915 and 1919. (But the wild-haired whacko was already an established power house. He got the Nobel a couple of years later!!). Or that's like Hardy throwing away 'illiterate' Ramanujan's work just because most of his theorems didn't make sense.<<

>>In a world that we actually know little about, where 'mainstream' physicists have spend billions of dollars building bigger and more expensive colliders just to generate supplementary evidence (and not prove, remember) the holiest-of-the-holy-grail Standard Model of particle physics; and where financial whizzes dream (and implement) mathematical models to predict credit worthiness ; it's surely more important (and much less expensive) to have a dedicated, intergovernmental (or at least a national level) research project to investigate the claims of such experiments--especially if they have a bearing on our understanding of physical processes. Whatever we lose, it wont be more than what Lehman Brothers did.<<

[jberryhill]

12. Here's the deal, and it's a pretty simple one

I don't care whether his theories are correct or not.

He's been at this for years.

My only question is - where's the power?

As a patent attorney, I've had the experience that many patent attorneys have had of some inventor who has a scheme which seems unbelievable. The only question I've ever asked of such folks is - does it work? Because it doesn't matter whether you can explain how your thing works. What matters is whether your thing actually does work.

I had this one guy with an "energy machine" he wanted me to patent and help him promote. When I asked him if he had one running, he said he needed to patent it first and get some investors. I explained that he didn't need to patent it first, and if he had one hooked up to his house and workshop, and it ran his house and/or his neighbor's houses, with the kind of performance he was claiming, then he'd have no problem finding investors.

So, when is Mills planning to power his lab with a device operating according to his plans?

I don't care whether he shakes the tree of dogma, pees on it, or cuts it down and uses it for firewood. Where's the power?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

14. He's had this exact reactor for years?? The process has been

reproduced by an independant lab for years?? Didn't know.

[longship]

5. As Homer Simpson says:

"In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"

Hopefully, we here at DU will also obey them. All these free energy deals are out-right fraud.

[deadmessengers]

6. This was de-crapped months ago. n/t

[Igel]

7. No, not a salt water clean fuel invention.

But salt water obviously fuels clean invention.

Basically the words. Just the wrong order.


Or perhaps "pure invention" is a better choice of phrase.

[Javaman]

13. ugh.

this moron would be better off giving out potatoes to power radios instead of this bullshit.

[eppur_se_muova]

15. Please bookmark this collection of debunking threads.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1787786&mesg_id=1788066