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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:36 AM Original message |
Mini power generated by VW engines |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. FACT CHECK: Internal combustion enginers are NOT 94% efficient. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. did the article say that? |
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Tommy_J (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The efficiency of a combined heat and power system - |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Germany can get cold, but I still think it's misleading to say "94%." |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. This might be a fuel cell |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Here is a photo of the 'innerds' |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. I wish there were plans to export this tech to the US. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I don't think the 94% efficiency applies to cars. Moving heavy bodies vs generating heat. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. sounds pretty interesting |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
7. They're calculating heating the house into the equation. It still produces copious amounts of CO2. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
9. Another thing, technically this is actually *less* efficient at heating your house than... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. That isn't logical. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 03:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. True, if you include them together it's more efficient. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Presumably? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Peaking plants come online during the mid afternoon in summer, usually. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Well you'd know about that... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Yeah, the waste heat pouring out of the vents into my property sure is irrelevant. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Increased efficiency = lower heat emissions |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. ... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Who gives a fig if you like it? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I don't recall saying anything about centrally generated power. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Of course you don't... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Because I didn't. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Right. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Funnily the Wikipedia entry has a graph of Germany's electrical power: |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Wow. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. How don't I understand it? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. And it means what in the context of the discussion? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. It means that until all of these magical renewable energy solutions are created... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You have no idea what you are talking about |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Hmm... explain it to me. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
10. It's a gas furnace that makes electricity. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Each unit is designed to power more than one home. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Check out what I posted down thread |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
13. Here's what Honda offers |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. So the plan is to replace nuclear plants with little dirty dangerous fossil fuel plants? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 03:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Millions and millions of little dirty dangerous fossil fuel plants! |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 03:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yeah, I'm beginning to see where you are coming from on this forum. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
19. Wonder how much waste heat this bugger puts out into your back yeard during summer (peak energy)? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Isn't this sold as a furnace replacement primarily? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 06:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Yeah, but it's also a grid generator that the grid people control. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. That is why it is coupled to hot water heat storage, Sherlock. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Uh, the heat must be released eventually. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Your level of ignorance is astounding. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. You're the one thinking that the waste heat magically gets stored in plumbing. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. You have trouble with complexity, eh? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Please dispense with the red herrings. It will produce waste heat in the local environment. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. "I dunno..." |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Still produces more waste heat than if I used a different system. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Right, I forgot you live in an alternate reality... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Back to your idiotic responses without substance, I see. |
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