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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:13 AM
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50 (50!!) Scientists & Lobbyists Meet To Blame Melting On Sun, Volcanoes, Geothermal Activity
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As the world gathered in the Danish capital for the UN Climate Change Conference, more than 50 scientists, businessmen and lobby groups met to discuss the arguments against man made global warming. Although the meeting was considerably smaller than the official gathering of 15,000 people meeting down the road, the organisers claimed it could change the course of negotiations.

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Professor Nils-Axel Morner, a geologist from Stockholm University, said sea level rise has also been exaggerated by the “climate alarmists” using computer models. He said observational data from lake sediments, coast lines and trees show sea levels have remained stable. Professor Cliff Ollier, another geologist from the University of Western Australia, also said the environmental lobby have got it wrong on ice caps. He said the melting of ice sheets is caused by geothermal activity rather than global surface temperatures.

Professor Ian Plimer, from the University of Adelaide, claimed carbon dioxide from volcanoes rather than humans is driving warming as part of a natural process.

The meeting was organised by Danish group Climate Sense and the lobby group Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT). Craig Rucker, Executive Director of CFACT, admitted the organisation have taken funding from Exxon Mobil in the past but pointed out that many environmental groups are also receiving funding from major corporations.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6762640/Copenhagen-climate-summit-global-warming-caused-by-suns-radiation.html

Ooh! Burn!!

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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:16 AM
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1. I wonder if even one of those is a climate scientist
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:19 AM
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2. I know of quite a few climate scientists...
(at least that's what they claim to be) who hold similar views.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:43 AM
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5. for instance?
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 01:17 PM
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9. You know, quite a few.
Edited on Wed Dec-09-09 01:18 PM by Viking12
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:27 AM
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3. By God, Michael Crichton Would Have Been Proud
:patriot:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 12:16 PM
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8. You've got that right!
Morons of the world unite!

You have nothing to lose except your future!

... oh wait ...
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:34 AM
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4. sadly the cnn pop poll yesterday
was 55 / 45, human caused to naturally caused global warming.

That number is utterly dismaying. What I want to do is get their names now because I'm charging those motherfuckers double for drinking water and breathing air later.

I read the poll as 45% of all poll respondents are piss poor protoplasm who really shouldn't be wasting resources on this planet anyway.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 11:42 AM
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6. Geothermal activity causing polar ice cap melting???
Ye Gods, what an idiot. I personally know the folks who discovered the hydrothermal vents on the Gakkel ridge under the polar ice cap and there is NO significant heat flow from that system reaching anywhere near the surface ice. And they have been there for millions of years. And anyone with even a modicum of scientific ability would know this from reading the papers on the subject. Therefore I must conclude they aren't interested in the truth, only in spreading lies.
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 11:47 AM
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7. One of their major arguments
"As anybody knows who follows the opinion polls in Britain and Australia and the US, in the last few weeks and months there has been a rapid collapse in the global warming chimera"

Science Vs Opinion Polls....How can our species possibly survive?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 04:42 PM
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10. Wonder if Nordell is in on this.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 04:47 PM
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11. Since he embraces anthropogenic causes, I don't see why you'd even ask...
Oh, that's right. You never did manage to get a grasp of the nature and significance of his paper as you were too busy playing demagogue to actually think clearly about it.
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