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Louisiana1976 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:40 PM
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Climate change reality: The People Speak
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"It is not North vs. South, or East vs. West, it is traditional village life versus modern, centralized, hierarchical, industrial, consumerist society," says environmental and social activist Hayduke in a recent article Degrowth Time Has Come.

Hayduke references Miguel Valencia's speech Liberating the Social Imagination to Liberate Our Villages last Wednesday at Klimaforum09's Degrowth Seminar as honing in on the "ultimate futility of attempting to prop up an unsustainable world view."

"Valencia's speech," he writes, "should be plastered on the front page of every newspaper in the world, distributed as broadsheets on every street corner, read aloud at peace, environmental and social justice gatherings everywhere. This is the voice of the future and the dying wail of "Civilization" brought to account for its profligate ways."

No kidding! If the first week of COP15 tells us anything, it is this: The People Are Speaking. They want a real deal. One that returns power to the people.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/13/813022/-Climate-Change-Reality:-The-People-Speak
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:51 PM
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1. Most of the problem is due to refusal of mega-corps to allow green technology
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 09:53 PM by clear eye
to supplant the fossil fuels they are invested in. When I get the courage, I'll make public the fate of an extremely cost-effective, inexpensive technology that has been bought by these cos. so that it could be suppressed.
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:35 AM
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4. Go ahead...
...they will just label you a conspiracy theorist.

What I would be interested in is all the technology that the DOD has "stolen"...as in kept from general use....supposedly so that other countries and militaries can't use it. What branch of gov is most interested in continuing the oil wars?

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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:31 AM
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5. They couldn't really call me a conspiracy theorist.
It's too cut and dried. Hidden in plain sight. The best they could do was claim that it still wasn't ready--but there is good info that it's been ready for ~5 years. The way patent laws work, they don't have to market it if they don't want to. The law just wasn't written w/ situations involving the end of the species in mind. I wish there were the political will to take these things using eminent domain. If there was ever a justification for that double-edged sword of a law, it's this situation.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:20 PM
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6. The cryptic nature of your comments encourages the perception
The cryptic nature of your comments encourages the perception that you are putting out a fringe style belief.

If you have something to say, then say it and quit pussyfooting around. What laws or circumstances could preclude you making such comments and require you to "have courage"?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:06 PM
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2. k and r
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:48 PM
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3. They can "speak,"
but ain't NO power listening. It's gonna take more than words. Ms Bigmack
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