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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 01:57 PM
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Areva,FNEG Plan 1 Or 2 EPR Nuclear Units In California
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091229-705691.html

PARIS (Dow Jones)--French nuclear group Areva SA (CEI.FR) and Fresno Nuclear Energy Group plan to build one or two of Areva's EPR-type reactors in California's central valley, the company said Tuesday, opening up a new horizon for a technology that has encountered delays and cost overruns and that lost out just days ago to a rival.

FNEG, a group of investors, wants to install the reactors to provide low-carbon power to the central valley's agricultural industry and to help California meet growing electricity demand while reducing its emissions of carbon dioxide, Areva said in a statement.

A French consortium including Areva failed in a bid to sell the technology to the United Arab Emirates, which Sunday opted instead to hand a contract for new reactors to a South Korean-led consortium.

The EPR, Areva's flagship reactor, has yet to enter commercial service anywhere in the world. In Finland, where an EPR is nearing completion, construction has suffered delays and cost overruns.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 03:34 PM
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1. Have the sleazebags found a way around the moratorium on new plants?
Doesn't California still require an operating waste dump before a new plant can be built?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 03:56 PM
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4. They're going to pretend they're not generating waste
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_Hutson

John Hutson is the president and chief executive of Fresno Nuclear Energy Group LLC, a company which is proposing to build a nuclear power station in Fresno county. Hutson is also the chairman of the Fresno Utility Commission. <1>

In March 2008, Hutson said that the Fresno Nuclear Energy Group would try "to avoid the state moratorium by not producing waste. Used fuel would be shipped to France for reprocessing, rather than encased in steel and concrete and stored on site awaiting a permanent repository at Yucca Mountain in Nevada." The same article described Hutson as a "former labor union leader." <1>
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 03:52 PM
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2. No better place to try something new out than the valley that provides us
with much food. Nothing to worry about there now is there? Fuck the nuclear power industry for the shysters they are and always have been. I've been around this old dog a long time and see nothing new except the framing of the lies.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 03:53 PM
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3. This is part of a Republican election campaign for 2010 to unseat Boxer
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Power_for_California

Power for California is a pro-nuclear power group associated with California State Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, a Republican from Irvine.

http://www.powerforcalifornia.com/

California State Assemblyman Chuck DeVore is now a declared candidate for the United States Senate in 2010 against Barbara Boxer and he intends to make nuclear power one of the key issues in his campaign.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 04:41 PM
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5. Oh look, a conflict of interest
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=141&topic_id=26108&mesg_id=26109
found out the info on the Nuclear supporters
annm4peace Mon Jan-01-07

John Hutson, who is president and CEO of Fresno Nuclear Energy Group, is ALSO
Chairman of Fresno Utility Commission (isn't that a conflict of interest? guess not, since Cheney and the Oil industry were head of the Energy Task force).

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:20 PM
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7. I'm telling you the nuclear industry never play fair
Back through the years if they would have put as much money and effort into finding a solution to the many problems with nuclear power rather than spend so much on bullshit and outright lies they would be way further along in their efforts to nuke power the world. But when they chose to put their efforts into bullshit rather than address the many problems associated with nuclear power they jumped the shark. Its as if they thought that the average person didn't have the capacity or wouldn't care to understand nuclear energy so they could just feed us any bull they could pull out of their asses. You would think that by now that they would figure out that we have real valid reasons to be concerned and nothing is going to change that until we see real solutions, not more of the same obfuscations. I doubt as an industry they ever figure that out though.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:17 PM
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6. In less than two years, the first EPR will begin operating in Finland. It will, in the first year
Edited on Tue Dec-29-09 08:18 PM by NNadir
produce more energy than all of the windmills in Denmark produce.

It will do so without destroying vast tracts of land and sea, without raising a hackle from Diane Feinstein about millions of hectares of destroyed habitat.

It will operate continuously and reliably, just like the vast majority of the world's nuclear reactors, and unlike say, a Vestas windmill, the 5 year warranties of which almost cost Vestas to go bankrupt, the EPR, whose steam generators arrived on site within the last month, will serve humanity until the 22nd century approaches.

Of course, I am about to hear a bunch of clap trap and bull about the delays in this reactor, which was started about 2005, the year that, according to Amory Lovins in 2001, hydrogen HYPErcars were going to show up in showrooms, no doubt run on hydrogen made from one of the dangerous natural gas companies that pay him to Greenwash them.

But no matter.

Finland is so disappointed with all the outrage from people who hate the world's largest, by far, form of climate change energy because it's not Gerhard Schroeder's gas company, that it's talking about building even more reactors.

But don't worry. Like the Shell Oil/Conoco/Walmart "consultant" Amory Lovins said in his very convincing high school paper "Nuclear Power and Nuclear Bombs" in Foreign Affairs in 1980, "nuclear power is dead!!!!!!!!!!! DEAD I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!

No reason to come around here screaming that solar power at 20 cents per kwh is greeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaatttttttt!.

Because nuclear power is dead and, with a kudo to the memory of 1976's version of Amory "18 quads of solar by 2000 and 'nuclear power is dead'" Lovins, http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/international/iealf/table27.xls">2,594.53 <<<< 684.38

Yesterday, Areva announced that it has had positive feedback on its proposal to build EPR's in (gasp, gasp, gasp) United Arab Emirates.

It's time for all of our racists to come out and scream like Dick Cheney that Muslims can't have uranium because you know, well, because of all those, um, nuclear wars that keep taking place in the Mid East.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:32 PM
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8. Sounds like somone is off their meds
Its a bitch having to go cold turkey a few days each month huh. You'd think that after a while you'd figure out how to squirrel away a few for those long 31 day months though wouldn't you. :rofl: I feel for you, I've been there before too :-)

Tell me something though big guy, what has Amory Lovins done to you in the past? Is is something that the rest of us really need to know so we can hate him too? Did he take your job away from you or keep you from getting hired somewhere you really wanted to work? Man what is this big hard on for Lovins all about anyway :crazy:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:10 AM
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9. LOL!!!111
:rofl:
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