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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:01 PM
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19 Million American Commute 45 Minutes One-Way; 3% Of US "Extreme" Commuters - 90 Min. One-Way
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The average time it takes to travel to your work in the U.S. is 25 minutes. One in six (19 million persons) need more than 45 minutes to get to work and nearly 3.5 million Americans are extreme commuters (3% of the workforce). Most of those live near a handful of mega-cities (if you can use the term "near" when you daily travel for hours to get to and from your workplace). Paradoxically, the states in the U.S. where people spend the least time commuting to work are also some of the most sparsely populated states (South Dakota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Montana). In New York, people spend twice as much time to get to their jobs as in South Dakota - a state in which 800 000 persons live in an area that is almost as big as half of Sweden. (Sweden is by European standards a relatively large and sparsely populated country, but there are still more than 9 million people living here.) Similarly, it is possible that people on average spend less time getting to their jobs far up in sparsly populated northern Sweden than around Stockholm. 



From 1990 an on, extreme commuters have been the fastest growing segment of commuters in the U.S., and the number of extreme commuters doubled between 1990 and 2005. What were the driving forces behind this development? Do remember that extreme commuters travel no less than three hours per day, but some can spend four, five or six hours traveling to and from their jobs. 



A 2006 competition for "America’s longest commute" was won by a man who had driven 600 km to and from his job as an engineer at Cisco in San Jose (California) daily since 1989. He left home at 4.30 every morning and the trip took at best three hours. The return trip could take four or five hours (more traffic) and he was usually home between 20.00 and 20.30 in the evenings. His commute was bearable thanks to ad-free satellite radio and audio books. And thanks to coffee we may assume, as he drank "about nine" cups on each trip, and squeezed in a total of 30 cups of coffee each day. Winning the competition was an eye-opener, but he was on the whole satisfied with living on a horse ranch next to the beautiful Yosemite National Park. A woman who had taken the same decision and made the same trade-offs was portrayed in a longer (highly recommended) story in The New Yorker. She lives in a nice house, but the quality of her everyday life is by most standards poor: 

“She gave up cooking some years ago. Now she gets home, feeds her dogs, then heats up soup or pizza she buys at a pizzeria on weekends. She takes a shower and goes to bed, maybe watching a taped episode of "CSI". ”



Then there is also this story of 42 commuters who sit down together on the 5 a.m. bus and arrive to New York City two hours later. There is of course always someone who is more extreme, such as Greg Wixted who commutes between London and Dubai each week (if you can call it communing?). 

 There are several more or less good reasons to commute long distances. Perhaps your spouse works closer to home, but your job is far away? Maybe you've always yearned for a rural lifestyle? But the strongest driving force behind extreme commuting in the United States has been a desire for better quality of life (!) and the wish to have your own little piece of the American dream; to buy a nice house with a big lawn in a nice area with good schools, low crime, clean and decent neighbors and soccer practice for the kids on Saturday mornings. The payoff is alluring to many, but the costs are high: 

 " ‘Drive until you qualify’ is a phrase that real-estate agents use to describe a central tenet of the commuting life: you travel away from the workplace until you reach an exit where you can afford to buy a house that meets your standards. The size of the wallet determines that of the mortgage, and therefore the length of the commute. <..> in this equation you're trading time for space, miles for square feet. " 



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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:03 PM
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1. my nearest job markets are 40 and 60 minutes away.
so i have commuted for years.

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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:05 PM
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2. I live 30 miles from my work
and it takes 90 minutes using public transportation. Why don't I live closer to work? Because I would pay much more rent for less living area in San Francisco.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:11 PM
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7. Wow. that's tough. Good thing you can use transit. What kind?
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:18 PM
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14. BART and Muni (metro and bus)
the good thing is I get plenty of time to read, which I love. :)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:26 PM
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15. That really is a saving grace, isn't it? Too bad most folks don't 'get' that. nt
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:15 PM
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17. it is! AND
I put less than 4,000 miles on my car within the last year as well as dramatically lowered the amount of money that I spend on gas. woo hoo!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:56 AM
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20. And your insurance on the car is MUCH lower!
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:06 PM
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3. My commute is 35 miles each way...
about 45 minutes in the morning, 1 hour in the evening.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:10 PM
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6. Go, Gang Green!
The poster formerly known as MookieWilson
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:51 AM
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19. Here's hoping!!
And as an aside, I have never ever liked hearing the nickname "Gang Green" when referring to the Jets.
It sounds too similar to gangrene, which is icky to think about (especially since I've seen some gangrene infections up close).
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:09 PM
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4. I'm about 8 blocks away from my job.
When I first moved to where I live now I worked next door. It was nice to be able to walk home for lunch.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:09 PM
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5. Insanity. Are these driving statistics? I guess this is also a function of two career
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 04:10 PM by Captain Hilts
households. Pick a middle point and live there.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:21 PM
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8. Once again the assumption is that people always commute to core cities from suburbs
This is not the case. Often people commute suburb to suburb or from one small town to another. I live in a city of 60000 people where the words "traffic jam" apply to having to wait more than 90 seconds for a left turn light. We have people here who commute from a bigger city some 40 miles away and an even bigger one 65 miles away. Jobs move. Replacement jobs are often not next door to the old onw. Most people are not as wiling as I am to move every time I get a new job (admittedly I have to as I always search nationally for jobs - if I had to commute to that 40 mil away city instead I may just put up with it). Some people just get insanely attached to one place where they want to live as if only one place has acceptable schools or amenities. They will then drive those silly distances even if their next job is more rmeote.

It's certainly not always a remote suburb to core city commute.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:28 PM
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16. We're having a hell of a time dealing with that in the DC area where folks go from Bethesda to
Dulles, for example. Unlike most civilized cities, DC metro has no 'ring'. fighting for the purple line has been a nightmare.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:21 PM
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9. Wow, I'm way below average
A tank of gas at 17 gallons lasts me two weeks in a 4x4 SUV.

Or less than 10 gallons if I ride my motorcycle, but I tend to take a longer route when I do that.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:21 PM
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10. That guy burned 113,300 gallons of gas in 17 years of commuting,
assuming 30 mpg car.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:31 PM
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11. Or roughly about 1360 tons of CO2, assuming 24 lbs/gallon
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 04:31 PM by hatrack
Another way of looking at it: more than any of these countries produce annually.

Barbados
Togo
Malawi
Swaziland
Sierra Leone
Niger
French Guiana
Maldives
French Polynesia
Belize
Rwanda
Burkina Faso
Liberia
Seychelles
Afghanistan
Faroe Islands
Mali
Bermuda
Greenland
Eritrea
Cayman Islands
Djibouti
Antigua and Barbuda
Chad
Gibraltar
Bhutan
Saint Lucia
Gambia
Cape Verde
Guinea-Bissau
Central African Republic
Grenada
Western Sahara
Burundi
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Solomon Islands
Timor-Leste
Somalia
Samoa
Nauru
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Tonga
Dominica
Palau
São Tomé and Príncipe
British Virgin Islands
Marshall Islands
Vanuatu
Comoros
Montserrat
Cook Islands
Saint Pierre and Miquelon
Anguilla
Falkland Islands
Kiribati
Wallis and Futuna
Saint Helena
Niue

Of course, it took him 17 years to get there . ..
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:40 PM
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12. I had an hour drive each way for a full year.
One particularly blizzardy day I spent 3 hours getting there, worked 5 hours, left early, took 5 hours driving back.

Couldn't much help it - it was a temporary job ("just til the war ends" HA) that didn't turn permanent until I'd been there over a year. I couldn't sign a year long lease not knowing if I'd be let go in a week or two.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:50 PM
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13. I have been commuting one hour and thirty minutes each way by 737 every two weeks for 17 years.
That is just get to work, from their, I drive or fly on a smaller aircraft all around the oil field to my work location.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:03 AM
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18. my 20 mile commute sometimes take me 2 hrs n/t
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