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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:07 PM
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Boulder City Resolution - Radioactive Waste
Boulder City Nevada
City Hall, Boulder City
401 California Ave
Boulder City, NV 89005


RESOLUTION NO. 3117
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY TO EXCLUDE THE USE OF HIGHWAY ROUTES THROUGH BOULDER CITY AND THE METROPOLITAN LAS VEGAS VALLEY FOR THE TRANSPORT OF LOW-LEVEL NUCLEAR RADIOACTIVE WASTE TO THE NEVADA TEST SITE

http://www.state.nv.us/nucwaste/nts/boulder.htm
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 07:07 PM
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1. In other news, Boulder finds it impossible to prevent the transport of dangerous fossil fuel waste
through the city.

The reason is that they couldn't care less about containing dangerous fossil fuel, just like the rest of the anti-nukes, most of whom have the technical level of the oil stain left over from spilled gasoline.

I've spent thousands of hours in Boulder in my life time, I would guess. They are perfectly happy there to burn dangerous fossil fuels, and dump the waste in the atmosphere.

They have no plan to prevent dangerous fossil fuel wastes from ending up in the flesh of their citizens, which, in fact it does.

Of course, it is possible to prevent the transport of radioactive materials, although the scientists at UC Boulder might be out of work if it is attempted.

The reason is that it is easy to contain and control radioactive materials, which is why the number of people who have been killed in this country by transport of these materials, is zero, if you ignore the dangerous fossil fuels routinely released by the trucks that transport them.
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:23 PM
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2. Your a funny BS artist. Boulder City hot spot for renewable energy
Do you get paid by the post?

Boulder City, the community established for the builders of Hoover Dam, is securing its claim as a hot spot for renewable energy, including solar power.

Sempra Generation, a subsidiary of San Diego-based Sempra Energy, has announced the completion of the 10-megawatt El Dorado Solar Project, a second utility-scale solar plant there.

Acciona Solar Power, a majority owned subsidiary of Spanish giant Acciona Energy, started commercial operation of a 64-megawatt solar project called Nevada Solar One in June 2007 in Boulder City.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/36721494.html


More juice: Boulder City solar project to quintuple in size

Boulder City will soon house North America's largest sun-powered energy plant.

And though local utility executives praised the power station as an indicator of Southern Nevada's potential for renewable energy, they said they hoped the project would generate more jobs and more juice for locals than its predecessor created.

San Diego-based Sempra Generation, a subsidiary of Sempra Energy in New York, said Wednesday it would more than quintuple the size of its El Dorado Energy solar plant, from 10 megawatts to 58 megawatts. The company will rename the expanded project Copper Mountain Solar

http://www.lvrj.com/business/43087357.html


Boulder City Solar is a 150 MW photovoltaic solar generating facility situated on approximately 1,110 acres of prime solar land within the municipal jurisdiction of the City of Boulder City, Nevada. Located within the City's Energy Zone, Boulder City Solar is at one of the major crossroads for extra high voltage transmission lines in the West, including the Eldorado, Marketplace, McCullough, Merchant and Nevada Solar One substations. Proximity to these transmission facilities permits direct interconnection to the California Independent System Operator, Nevada Energy and municipal systems.

The City of Boulder City has reserved the Energy Zone for development of solar energy facilities. Two utility-scale solar generating facilities are already in commercial operation within the Energy Zone, and Boulder City Solar will occupy the sole remaining acreage reserved for solar development within the Energy Zone. Environmental "pre-permitting" of the Energy Zone allows the Project to proceed based on the issuance of a building permit by the City of Boulder City. Species mitigation is accomplished through payment of an established city fee.

http://www.bouldercitysolar.com/secondary.asp?id=7
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:50 PM
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4. I find it amusing that you cite Hoover Dam.
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 08:24 AM
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7. The Boulder City utility receives part of their power from Hoover dam
They are on the A schedule to receive power. However,they only get so many kwh a year. The city has grown so much that they have outgrown their Hoover dam kwhs.

I think it would be fair to say they are 100% renewable utility.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:05 AM
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11. That's a laugh.
Boulder City gets about 3% of their power from Hoover.

"As stated earlier, more than 70 percent of our electricity supply uses natural gas as the fuel. If we compare that to other western states, Nevada is the only state so dependent on one fuel, and it is the fuel that has the most price fluctuations. California, for example, gets almost half of its power from the combination of nuclear, hydro and coal. Many think that we get much of our power from Hoover Dam. The maximum energy generated by Hoover is about 3 percent of our peak demand. Another fact: while some states with greater fuel diversity than Nevada are cancelling plants, there are more than 50 plants that are either in construction or advanced stages of permitting and siting, total over 24,000 megawatts of generation."

http://www.nvenergy.com/company/energytopics/threepartstrategy.cfm

I think it would be fair to say NV is among the greatest carbon-spewers in the nation.

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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:16 AM
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12. "I think it would be fair to say NV is among the greatest carbon-spewers in the nation."
Even more so when you consider the high energy per capita required to live in a Desert.
Not just direct electrical use but electrical use in water system too.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:32 AM
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13. Nevada has a huge quantity of renewable resources and will develop them.
Case closed.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:33 AM
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14. Nevada has had a huge quantity of natural resources for couple billion years.
Case not so closed.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:42 AM
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15. Dude, nuclear power is dead, it just hasn't laid down yet.
Thanks for helping waste our very precious public funds on such an ineffective answer to climate change.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:47 AM
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16. I heard all that 30 years ago.
I heard how we were going to stop using nuclear energy and phase out coal, and natural gas.
I heard how windmills could power the whole world. I heard how everyone would be driving electrical cars in 10 years.

30 years ago I was anti-nuclear. I watched as we build a thousand coal power plants in last three decades. Plants that could have been emission free nuclear power.

Let me know in 30 years if you still believe nuclear is dead.

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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:05 PM
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17. And it was correct.
We COULD also have invested heavily in renewables and we didn't. Why? Because the same industrial and political interest groups that promote fossil fuels pushed nuclear power until they could get more and cheaper fossil fuels. All they care about is maintaining their stranglehold on energy.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:10 PM
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18. More and cheaper fossil fuels? You are living in some bizzaro world. n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 12:10 PM by Statistical
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:30 PM
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19. Reagan shifted emphasis to heightened investment in "more and cheaper" FF.
That was the cornerstone of his energy policy - drill baby drill.
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 10:50 PM
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20. Unlike you or the previous funny BS poster, I lived in Boulder City NV
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 11:18 PM by Fledermaus
The average annual net generation for Hoover Powerplant for 1947 through 2008 was about 4.2 billion kilowatt-hours.

Principal contractors for energy

The States of Arizona and Nevada; City of Los Angeles; Southern California Edison Co.; Metropolitan Water District of Southern California; California cities of Glendale, Burbank, Pasadena, Riverside, Azusa, Anaheim, Banning, Colton, and Vernon; and the city of Boulder City, Nevada.


http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/faqs/powerfaq.html



Sonya Headen, a spokeswoman for Nevada Power, agreed. The utility receives "such a small amount of power from Hoover Dam" that it hasn't had a significant effect on power costs, Headen said. "At this point, it has not been an issue for the company."

"If the drought continues for a long period of time, of course, there will be trouble," Caan said.

Boulder City gets a larger portion of its power from Hoover Dam, and its rates will be affected more by the need to purchase extra expensive electricity from other sources, Caan said.


http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Jul-10-Sat-2004/business/24275179.html
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:14 PM
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21. Large or Large(r)?
The case of the missing "R". Lemme guess - your finger slipped? Your dog ate it?

Nice try...what was that about BS again?

:rofl:

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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:21 PM
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22. Gosh thanks. I corrected the error.
:loveya:

I guess you need to grasp at any straw real or imagined
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:38 PM
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23. You'd feel better if you just admitted it
Now, now...you tried to pull a fast one and you got caught red-handed. Calling it an "error" or suggesting it was my "imagination" is no way to regain credibility, is it? :cry:

I've been looking for a specific percentage of Boulder City power from Hoover, but I'm coming up dry. I'll bet it's under 20%, with the rest is natural gas furnaces cranking away to keep everyone's home cool - a big job, with all that global warming.

If you have any links, please share. And no funny business this time.
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 11:38 PM
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26. Boulder City has its own utility.
Edited on Thu Apr-15-10 11:39 PM by Fledermaus
Its not Nevada power as you would have people understand.

At one time the dam provide 100% of the power for the city.

When I lived there I paid half what people in Las Vegas paid.

Even today its 50% less than Las Vegas...

The city is currently collecting rent for two of the present solar power plants, and is currently considering a trade of power for the third power plant.

FYI, when you pay your electric bill in Boulder City you make your check payable to "Boulder City" not "Nevada Power" as you claim.

You are just completely wrong or purposefully being misleading.
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 12:37 PM
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27. Boulder City OKs terms of $100 million solar plant lease
Boulder City Utility rates are 7.43 cents per kwh. At the present time this would be 2243 kwh annually for each person living in Boulder City for the next 40 years. About 20% an annual utility bill today. The city has two leases like this already.

Wed, Apr 15, 2009 (11:10 a.m.)
The city could realize about $100 million in revenue over 40 years under the terms of an agreement for a solar energy plant that would fill the final available parcel in the city’s energy park in the Eldorado Valley.
The City Council in a 3-1 vote agreed to the major terms of a proposed deal with NextLight Renewable Power LLC, with Councilwoman Linda Strickland voting no and Mayor Roger Tobler absent.
NextLight agreed to pay between $2,050 and $2,200 per acre per year for more than 1,000 acres over the next 40 years. The company would take the remaining property available in the energy zone, but the city is considering adding more of its Eldorado Valley land to the zone. If the contract gets final council approval, NextLight would be the third solar power company to build there.

http://www.nextlight.com/docs/Boulder%20City%20OKs%20terms_4-15-09.pdf
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 03:12 PM
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29. More like 35%
Edited on Sat Apr-17-10 03:27 PM by Fledermaus
Hover dam produces 4000GWh a year. Boulder City recieves 1.7% of that. There are 15,000 people living in Boulder City. Thats 4300KWh a year per person.


:fistbump:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:18 AM
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30. OK, so where's the missing 65%?
You claim Boulder City is a "100% renewable utility". :shrug:
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:34 PM
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3. I am sure Boulder city council is aware this is a do nothing resolution.
Boulder has no ability to regulate interstate traffic (nuclear or otherwise).

It simply is a request for something DOE already does. They attempt to use routes outside highly populated areas as a risk management tool.

It would be like Boulder passing a resolution requesting the Sun rise tomorrow because it would be very helpful.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:59 PM
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5. They are just telling YOU they don't like what you are trying to do.
They aren't alone.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:53 AM
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9. They are telling ME specifically. Now that is pretty cool.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 02:25 AM
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6. I'd be more impressed if they banned fossil fuel waste. nt
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:53 AM
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8. Hospitals to be expelled from Boulder and Las Vegas Valley?
Can't see how it's possible to get low level radioactive waste out of the hospitals/medical centers. Not without having to travel over the roads. Unless someone thinks we should use helicopters?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 10:16 AM
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10. Catapults? Jetpacks? Transporter Beams?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:50 PM
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24. Being good Nevadans, they're storing it on-site in the hospital basement
in bedpans that have been welded together. "Wet-cask" storage, if you will.

They say it will be safe for more than .02 millennia.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:00 AM
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25. Nice.
I wonder if everyone who support hospitals will let them bury it in their backyard.

(The common and idiotic "backyard" canard used by the antis).
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 01:20 PM
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28. "APPROVED on this 24th day of March, 1998."
March 24, 1998.

And you had to dig back twelve years (and a couple weeks) to find that.

Stout fellow!

It would be interesting to compare US and world energy profiles from 1998 and 2009, ¿no?.

--d!
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