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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 02:17 PM
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US loses round one of Italian Nuclear Renaissance. Italy signs deal for French reactors.
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 02:48 PM by Statistical
Enel, EDF and Ansaldo Energia have signed an agreement for the development of nuclear power plants in Italy based on the Evolutionary Pressurised Reactor (EPR) design.

The agreement is aimed at specifying areas of potential co-operation between Enel-EDF and Ansaldo Energia — which holds 100 per cent of Ansaldo Nucleare — in the development and construction of at least four EPRs that Enel and EDF, along with Areva technology, intend to build in Italy.

Enel and EDF will act as investors and architect engineers, with overall responsibility for the project management, design, construction and commissioning.


http://www.theengineer.co.uk/news/italy-gets-epr-nuclear-plants/1001692.article

Article doesn't make it clear but EPR is France's (AREVA) Third generation nuclear reactor. At 1650 MW it large even by nuclear standards.


Italy is becoming a nuclear battleground with France and the US competing furiously for a slice of its nuclear revival.

After fierce lobbying by both Paris and Washington, the first round is expected to be won by the French, who will tomorrow sign a number of strategic agreements with the Italians at a summit in Paris. Italy is planning to adopt the French EPR new generation reactor for the first stage of its nuclear renaissance. This will involve the construction of four plants with France's EDF electricity utility and the Areva nuclear engineering group co-operating with Italy's Enel electricity utility and the Finmeccanica engineering and defence conglomerate.

But the plants will only provide half the targeted 25 per cent of Italy's energy needs by 2025. The country will open a second round of tenders for nuclear reactors, and these are likely to go to Westinghouse. By opting for the US technology, the Italians will presumably be seeking to achieve a diplomatic balance that goes beyond the energy sector - just as they have done by co-operating in both US and European programmes in the civil aircraft field.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0db4d004-42a5-11df-91d6-00144feabdc0.html

The rest of world is embracing nuclear energy. Countries know nuclear power is a long term strategy and thus want a reliable partner. France ability to lead by example (using their own product, lowest price of electricity in Europe, high public support, largest energy exporter) has to be factoring into these design wins.

While most of reactor is assembled on site, each reactor represents hundreds of jobs in part fabrication. Jobs going to France and not the United States. Lets hope FT is right and next 4 reactor bids come to the US. Last time I checked we could use thousands of high paying precision engineering jobs.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 02:31 PM
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1. The world is a safer place because the US civilian nuclear industry is all but dead.
"If you have a gun, shoot 'em in the head."



Field Reporter: Are they slow-moving, chief?
Sheriff McClelland: Yeah, they're dead. They're all messed up.


Field Reporter: Chief, if I were surrounded by eight or ten of these things, would I stand a chance with them?
Sheriff McClelland: Well, there's no problem. If you have a gun, shoot 'em in the head. That's a sure way to kill 'em. If you don't, get yourself a club or a torch. Beat 'em or burn 'em. They go up pretty easy.

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Merchant Marine Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 03:53 PM
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3. 3 mile island caused zombies?
News to me...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 04:17 PM
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4. No, but Chernobyl caused atomic mutants. Really.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 02:41 PM
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2. The rest of the world is NOT "embracing" nuclear power.
The salesmen for the nuclear power plants have very deep pockets - just think Halliburton for a known and familiar entity of a similar nature.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 07:06 PM
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5. Um, as usual you are misinformed. Italy is the ONLY country EVER to have had nuclear power and
actually phased it out.

They now realize that this was phenomenally stupid.

The reality that the anti-nuke mentality is completely stupid is now a matter of international consensus generally.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 01:32 PM
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6. France just has better Economic Hitmen
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:18 PM
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7. They certainly have lower carbon emissions
And cheaper electricity
And longer life expectancy
And a higher HDI rating

Gosh, those poor oppressed Frenchmen.
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