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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 01:19 PM
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UN/IPCC - Expect Far Darker 2014 Climate Report - "That's Where All The Data Is Pointing"
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) – United Nations leaders will demand "concrete results" from the looming Cancun climate summit as global warming is accelerating, a top UN organizer of the event said Monday. obert Orr, UN under secretary general for planning, said the next Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report on global warming will be much worse than the last one.

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Orr told reporters that negotiators heading for the Cancun conference "need to remind themselves, the longer we delay, the more we will pay both in terms of lives and in terms of money." He said UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon would make it clear to world leaders in Cancun "that we should not take any comfort in the climate deniers' siren call."

"The evidence shows us quite the opposite-- that we can't rest easy at all" as scientists agree that climate change "is happening in an accelerated way. As preparations are underway for the next IPCC report, just about everything that you will see in the next report will be more dramatic than the last report, because that is where all the data is pointing."

The fourth IPCC assessment released in 2007 said that global warming is "unequivocal" and mainly caused by human activity. Its next report, involving contributions from thousands of scientists around the world, is due in 2014.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101122/sc_afp/climatewarmingun_20101122204030
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 01:26 PM
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1. I've said it before
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 01:28 PM by FirstLight
...and I will say it again...

ALL the models have been timed wrong, things are moving FAR faster than they can say.

and i think they know it.

there is no way the leaders of the world can do anything at this point
the whole summit thing is merely a horse & pony show to make the people less prone to panic because they will at least think the govt's are 'doing something'
meanwhile ...the pot of water continues to boil more & more rapidly, and we are the frog, sitting happily ignorant of the danger...
between peak oil, world economic crumbling, etc...we'd better be focusing on our own backyards and how to sustain ourselves. because the big daddy govt's are NOT aboe to fix the planet...the planet will fix US...
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 01:51 PM
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2. Yes, not only is it too late to do anything about climate change,
but nothing is being done to prepare for its disastrous consequences.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 10:13 PM
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6. Ice melt was already missing in AR4.
It was too late to include it despite that the reports were only weeks past the schedule. The data comes in faster and faster but the report process is too slow to adapt it.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 04:42 AM
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7. Evidence?
ALL the models have been timed wrong, things are moving FAR faster than they can say.

I'm wondering what evidence you have for this statement. Current global temperatures are running slightly under the average AR4 model projections.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 02:07 PM
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3. Nonsense.
That's two years AFTER 2012 - there will be no 2014 climate report.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 04:10 PM
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4. .
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 10:12 PM
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5. Been saying this awhile.
No one listens. Not even anyone on these progressive forums.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 06:04 AM
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8. Some people listen. Some people nod in agreement.
You are not as alone as you might think.

(Mind you, it's not as if this makes much difference though ...)
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