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True Earthling Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:50 PM
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Harvard Tests Validate Hydrino Theory - gallon of water = 200 barrels of oil
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 04:50 PM by True Earthling
BRADENTON, Fla., Dec. 18, 2010 -- A remarkable new energy source from fractional hydrogen will allow a gallon of ordinary water to become the energy equivalent of 200 barrels of oil, a team of physicists working near the onetime laboratories of Thomas Edison and Albert Einstein are saying. Working with a team headed by Dr. Alexander Bykanov at Harvard's Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics under contract with GEN3 Partners, the device showed hydrogen spectral emissions below 80 nanometers, the previously known "ground state" of hydrogen. Scientists formerly believed there could be no parts of the hydrogen atom smaller than the atom itself. "This is decisive evidence of the existence of hydrinos as Dr. Randell Mills theoretically predicted," the BlackLight Power press release said. Hydrinos are a fractional element of hydrogen that skeptics in the world of quantum physics previously said could not exist. "This is smoking-gun evidence of the existence of hydrinos," Dr. Mills said. "The light signature observed is from pure hydrogen and exists at a much higher energy level than deemed possible for this element in any known form." In a joint statement, Dr. Bykanov and Dr. Sam Kogan, chief operating officer of Boston-based GEN3 Partners, a company that evaluates new technologies and helps bring them to market, said " spectral results were identically independently reproduced, and we could find no conventional explanation for the emission of bright light from hydrogen in this very high energy region. We believe that this confirms hydrino emission." Acceptance of Mills' ideas is largely the product of a battle between Einstein's old-fashioned "classical" physics and the newfangled "quantum" ideas of physicists like the late Richard Feynman. One critic has been Stephen Chu, the Chinese-American physicist who was won the Nobel Prize and later became President Obama's Secretary of Energy. Chu urged investors to avoid BlackLight Power in 1999, saying he "felt sorry" for them. As many as seven Chinese-American physicists have co-authored some of the more than 80 peer-reviewed scientific journal articles published by and about Mills and his work, however. Mills could not be reached for comment on this article.

The company published its latest findings in the peer-reviewed International Journal of Hydrogen, and issued the news release Nov. 29 about the new power source, a system they call Catalyst Induced Hydrino Transition, or CIHT, that produces electricity directly. Others seeking a more palatable name have called it "Electricity from Collapsing Hydrogen Orbits," or ECHO. The company, funded with $70 million in investments by three large venture capital firms, says the technology allows an electric car, the size and weight of a Prius and costing about $9,000 to build, to travel more than 5,000 miles on a gallon of water. No combustion engine is required. A former chief of staff of the United States Air Force and a former CEO of Westinghouse Corp. have at various times sat on the company's board. At least five American utilities, a Washington, D.C., energy broker and multinational firms in Italy and Holland are hoping to deploy the hydrino generators to produce an amount of electricity equivalent to that needed to run 1 million American homes - for as little as one cent per kilowatt. "In additional independent tests conducted over the last 12 months, involving 13 solid fuel mixtures made by us from commercially-available chemicals and confirmed by multiple analyses, our team of engineering and chemistry professors, staff and students at Rowan University has independently and consistently generated energy in excesses ranging from 1.3 times to 6.5 times the maximum theoretical heat available through known chemical reactions," Dr. Ramanujachary said.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-530712?ref=feeds/latest

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:52 PM
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1. How long before Big Oil either
buys them off or kills them? And which will it be?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:53 PM
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3. Suicides. They're called suicides. nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 05:24 PM
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7. Right. Suicide is now a transitive verb, as in
"Who suicided David Kelly?"
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 06:01 PM
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9. Bingo!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:52 PM
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2. Holy cannoli, I'll never see this implemented in my lifetime!
The company, funded with $70 million in investments by three large venture capital firms, says the technology allows an electric car, the size and weight of a Prius and costing about $9,000 to build, to travel more than 5,000 miles on a gallon of water. No combustion engine is required.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 05:05 PM
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4. But it can't top my perpetual motion machine!
Runs eternally on nothing!
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 05:05 PM
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5. Sigh...more hype from Randall Mills and Co. Extraordinary claims require
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 05:09 PM by NNadir
extraordinary proof, which would be something more than a CNN posting of this type.

The extraordinary claim is that Neils Bohr was missing something big time. Unlikely.

Mills has been "just around the corner" for decades. He's running a Ponzi scheme.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 05:15 PM
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6. If this is true...
...why is it being reported by CNN "ireport" instead of by real CNN?

Color me skeptical.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 07:57 PM
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11. Because it's not true. It is that simple. It's Blue Sky Technology,
back again trying to raise money. Flying cars, jet packs, movie stars.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 03:04 AM
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15. Sometimes, it seems we need a Bogus Science dungeon. nt
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 05:44 PM
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8. I doubt it
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 05:51 PM by Ian David
Good old Bob Park of the APS (American Physical Society) once more made our week for us when he announced that the United States Patent Office was re-considering yet another patent — number 6,024,935, this time — granted to Blacklight Power, who will edify you with a pretty heavy description of what they call "The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Quantum Mechanics," if you give them a chance. They're at www.blacklightpower.com.

This patent was for "Lower-Energy Hydrogen Methods and Structures," which they describe as a process for getting hydrogen atoms into a "state below the ground state," whatever that means. Yes, I'm admitting my ignorance of the subject, but I defer happily to Bob. The patent involved something called "shrunken hydrogen atoms, called "hydrinos." Bob writes:

. . . the patent Director became concerned that this hydrino stuff required the orbital electron to behave "contrary to the known laws of physics and chemistry." The Hydride Compounds application was withdrawn for further review and the other patent applications were rejected. Since the one patent already issued involves the same violations of basic laws of physics, there is a cloud over its status as well. BLP filed suit in federal court arguing that it was too late for the Patent Office to change its mind. The court was not impressed, so BLP appealed the decision. In denying the appeal, the court said the Patent Office has a responsibility to take "extraordinary action" to withdraw a questionable patent.

Bravo! But why, hard on the heels of re-examining other questionable patents (see three weeks ago on this page), would the Patent Office have happened upon this particular one, when there are so many in this category? The secret can be inferred from Bob Park's weekly column, where we find: "Prompted by an outside inquiry (who would do such a thing?) . . ." That rascal!

The very fact that the Patent Office has paid heed to the complaints that Park, the JREF, and others have made, speaks well for rationality. Let's hope that we can look forward to many quack devices and systems being re-evaluated. Let's see a lot more of this "extraordinary action" from the Director. As for Blacklight Power, says Park, "Their long-awaited IPO may have to wait a little longer."

More:
http://www.randi.org/jr/092002.html


Article: Bigger than fire? A scientific examination of Randell Mills' "hydrino" theory

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Article date:
January 1, 2001
Author:
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A SCIENTIFIC EXAMINATION OF RANDELL MILLS "HYDRINO" THEORY

RANDELL MILLs AND HIS COMPANY, BlackLight Power, claim to have discovered a new, shrunken form of the hydrogen atom called the "hydrino," in which the electron is made to fall to an energy level below the lowest level allowed by the theory of quantum mechanics. Despite the fact that this idea violates well-established principles of physics, BlackLight Power has obtained millions of dollars in venture capital to develop energy generation systems and batteries based on hydrinos.

This article presents a scientific examination of the basis of the hydrino theory It shows that there are fundamental errors in NW work …

More:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-74174264.html



Hydrino Theory, Which Overturns Quantum Theory, Is In Turn Overturned By Doofusino Theory
by Scott Aaronson

On December 28, 1999, The Village Voice, long respected for its hard-hitting journalism and unimpeachable scientific integrity, ran a cover article entitled "QUANTUM LEAP" by Erik Baard. The article relates the epochal breakthroughs of Dr. Randell Mills of Princeton, NJ, a "Harvard-trained medical doctor who ... says he's found the Holy Grail of physics: a unified theory of everything." The article continues:

Mills says that with this new understanding he's produced clean and limitless energy and an entirely new class of materials and plasma that will reshape every industry in the coming decade. Mills also claims breakthroughs in artificial intelligence, cosmology, medicine, and perhaps even a form of gravitational jujitsu.

<snip>

But we must ask: now that hydrino theory has been incontrovertibly proven, what comes next? My purpose here is to announce that hydrino theory, as revolutionary as it was only a few months ago, must itself be superseded by the even more paradigm-smashing doofusino theory.

The recipe for creating a doofusino is simple. First pour two cups of chilled hydrinos into a greased pan, then add 3-4 tablespoons of polywater, a teaspoonful of magnetic monopoles, and a pinch of tachyons, dilute homeopathically until nothing remains, and finally stir thoroughly while chanting "Kumbaya" and wishing very hard. Assuming that it's an alternate Tuesday with Sagittarius rising and that you've been a good boy or girl this year, a doofusino will materialize and crawl out of the pan; you can recognize it by its fishy smell and its characteristic "duh-duh-duh" sound.

More:
http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/doofusino.html



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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 06:39 PM
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10. Gosh! They're only 37 miles from Thomas Edison's old lab. That must be proof it works!
:sarcasm:

What amazes me is that their wonderful breakthrough machine is always just around the corner.

All this article proves is that the journalists don't need any science education to qualify for their job. As a result it doesn't take much flim-flam to pull the wool over their eyes.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 08:47 PM
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12. lol. THis guy Mills must have escaped from an old Monty Python bit.
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 08:50 PM by JohnWxy
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 11:06 PM
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13. Yay for press releases,
and for the gullible who think they're reading actual science.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 03:02 AM
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14. Hydrino theory = total BS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=228&topic_id=34020&mesg_id=34194

There is no "smoking-gun evidence" here. There's just an assumption that some minor experimental result can't be accounted for by any of the explanations the experimenters thought of, so it must be something completely and radically new. Mills has been promising further developments for years and years, so he wants potential investors to make that assumption. Fools and their money ...
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