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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:34 PM
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Univ of Ill study: Plenty of land for Biofuel - enough to meet up to 56% of worlds liquid fuel needs
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/01/study-weve-got-plenty-of-land-for-biofuels/

Researchers at University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign have found that biofuel crops cultivated on land unsuitable for food crops could produce as much as half the world’s current fuel consumption without adverse impact on food crops or pastureland.

The study, published in Environmental Science and Technology, identifies land around the world that is unsuitable for food production but could be used to raise biofuel feedstocks like switchgrass.

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From there they considered marginal grassland, where a variety of plants called low-impact high-diversity perennial grasses could be raised. Although such crops have lower yield than more common feedstocks like switchgrass, they have less environmental impact. Including such lands and crops nearly doubled the available land. That, they say, is enough to meet as much as 56 percent of the world’s current liquid-fuel consumption.
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Actually, they concluded a biofuel production meeting a range of from 26% to 56% of the World's liguid fuel demand was possible.




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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:03 PM
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1. I thought the real argument against biofuels was the
Cost of producing biofuels?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:31 PM
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2. the ui backing bio fuels?
i never thought they`d do that....:sarcasm:
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:43 PM
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3. Yeah, land unsuitable for agricultural production
You know, grasslands, savanna, woodlands, rain forest, etc.

Nothing to worry about, move along all.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:52 PM
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4. At what EROI?
1.1:1? 1.3:1? 0.99:1? According to Charlie Hall we need an EROI of at least 3:1 to make a sustainable society work:

What is the Minimum EROI that a Sustainable Society Must Have? (PDF)

Abstract: Economic production and, more generally, most global societies, are overwhelmingly dependant upon depleting supplies of fossil fuels. There is considerable concern amongst resource scientists, if not most economists, as to whether market signals or cost benefit analysis based on today’s prices are sufficient to guide our decisions about our energy future. These suspicions and concerns were escalated during the oil price increase from 2005 – 2008 and the subsequent but probably related market collapse of 2008. We believe that Energy Return On Investment (EROI) analysis provides a useful approach for examining disadvantages and advantages of different fuels and also offers the possibility to look into the future in ways that markets seem unable to do. The goal of this paper is to review the application of EROI theory to both natural and economic realms, and to assess preliminarily the minimum EROI that a society must attain from its energy exploitation to support continued economic activity and social function. In doing so we calculate herein a basic first attempt at the minimum EROI for current society and some of the consequences when that minimum is approached. The theory of the minimum EROI discussed here, which describes the somewhat obvious but nonetheless important idea that for any being or system to survive or grow it must gain substantially more energy than it uses in obtaining that energy, may be especially important. Thus any particular being or system must abide by a “Law of Minimum EROI”, which we calculate for both oil and corn-based ethanol as about 3:1 at the mine-mouth/farm-gate. Since most biofuels have EROI’s of less than 3:1 they must be subsidized by fossil fuels to be useful.

Biofuels so far are a non-starter, no matter how much "unproductive" land we throw at them.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:19 PM
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5. LOL
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