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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:53 PM
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Twelve unsustainable things...
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:19 PM by GliderGuider
I find myself agreeing a lot with Mike Adams these days...

Twelve unsustainable things that will soon come to a disastrous end on our planet

1) Debt-based banking and economic systems
2) Conventional agriculture and "rape the planet" farming
3) Mass-consumption economies based on buy-it-and-trash-it behavior
4) The accelerating loss of farming soils
5) The mass poisoning of the oceans and aggressive over-fishing
6) Mass genetic pollution of the planet through GMOs
7) The drugs-and-surgery conventional medical system
8) Widespread pharmaceutical contamination of the human population and the environment
9) Runaway human population growth
10) Fossil water consumption for agriculture
11) Fossil fuel consumption
12) The widespread destruction of animal habitat

So those are 12 of the biggest things that are entirely unsustainable on our planet right now. Human life depends on most of them. It makes you wonder: How will humans survive when these systems and resources upon which we depend have run out or collapsed?

That is a question we'd all better be asking ourselves right now. Because the age of cheap fuel, cheap money, cheap water and cheap food is fast ending. The future of life on our planet will require something far more evolved than the infantile, selfish and self-destructive mindset that humanity has so far demonstrated.

You can read the article to find out what he says about each of those points. Of course, if you've been hanging out here longer than a year or so, you could probably write the story yourself.

PS - I notice the N-word doesn't appear on his list anywhere. Odd, eh?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:55 PM
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1. 13) Our socio-economic model as a whole
is entirely unsustainable in its current incarnation.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:58 PM
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3. I agree, but once you take that out of the picture, what's left?
Exciting thing to think about, though.

I was just struck by the irony of a web site giving instructions on how to knapp flint into arrowheads...
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:56 PM
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2. Yep. All completely avoidable, but greed, ignorance and sloth
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 12:57 PM by Lorien
will keep humanity from taking appropriate action on all.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:04 PM
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4. It's not a moral failure, it's the way we evolved.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:37 PM by GliderGuider
The findings of evolutionary neuropsychology hint that we couldn't have avoided this outcome if we'd tried. Our ability to see the universe as a bag of disconnected resources is built-in because of the alienation inherent in our self-awareness. We can overcome it - maybe - but only if we realize that it's the source of our problems. And one of the most significant functions of our worldview is its ability to keep us from recognizing that.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:53 PM
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5. The same Mike Adams that claims doctors are suppressing "many cures for cancer"?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:55 PM by kristopher
The doctors killed Elizabeth Edwards, doncha know?

http://www.naturalnews.com/030673_Elizabeth_Edwards_chemotherapy.html

I'm just guessing here, but I'd expect Mr. Adams to become a bit more concerned if we were producing so much nuclear waste that we required a new Yucca Mountain sized storage facility every two years, which would be the case if we used nuclear as 30% of the solution to climate change.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:13 PM
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6. I don't know about that specifically, but he is an "alternative health" guy
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 02:17 PM by GliderGuider
My GF quite likes him, but I don't know much about him. I've read maybe half a dozen things he's written, but none were about conspiracies by allopaths. they were more about "ignored" alternative treatment possibilities and anti-GM anti-Monsanto pieces.

I picked this up off Carolyn Baker's mailing list. Do you disagree with the points he raises?
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:40 PM
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8. I disagree with you elevating him to the position of authoritative voice on nuclear
He omission says far more about him than it does nuclear power.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:52 PM
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9. Boy, you have an odd take on things.
His omission says he considers the items he listed as more of a threat than nuclear power, yes. I happen to agree with him about both the items he listed and the glaring omission, which is what prompted me to post the piece and the comment.

I'm honoured that you feel that simply posting a link to his piece and commenting on it myself elevates him to the position of an "authoritative voice". I'm glad to know I have such influence.

:evilgrin:
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:05 PM
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11. I'm simply identifying your communications strategy
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:06 PM by kristopher
We all use them and you are no exception. You clearly endorsed Adams and you just as clearly appealed to his position as an "environmental" correspondent to portray the flake as some sort of "environmental" authority. That was your communications strategy; the use of which it was in an attempt to counter the fact that all legitimate environmental organizations reject nuclear power.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:20 PM
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12. Oh, Adams probably "rejects" nuclear power too.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:21 PM by GliderGuider
Most alternative health activists do, after all. All we know for sure is it didn't make his "Top 12" hit list, which I think is quite reasonable, and remarkably independent-minded of him.

Thanks for believing I have a "communications strategy". Mostly I just blather about whatever is going on inside my brainbox, and try to be mischievous, thoughtful, annoying or funny as I do it. Energy policy analysts have "communications strategies". I'm not one of those, so if I do in fact have one it's either a) a complete fucking accident or b) your projection.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:05 PM
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13. Linguistics 101
Every utterance made employs a communications strategy; it is the route to the meaning we wish to convey.

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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:20 PM
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14. Ah. So how is that different than just "talking"?
It's nice to know you don't think I'm trying to be linguistically manipulative at any rate.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:33 PM
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7. "widespread destruction of animal habitat"
shame. shame on "humanity"
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:55 PM
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10. It seems like everything humans are doing is in service of that final solution.
The elimination of all competition for planetary resources. Wilderness and wild creatures - what the heck good are they to us, anyway?
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