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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:46 PM
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Analysis: Seawater helps but Japan nuclear crisis is not over
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/13/us-japan-quake-nuclear-seawater-idUSTRE72C40320110313

(Reuters) - Pumping seawater into troubled nuclear reactors in Japan should keep them from a catastrophic full-scale meltdown, but conditions are still so volatile that it is far too early to declare the emergency over, nuclear experts said.

It is probably the first time in the industry's 57-year history that seawater has been used in this way, a sign of how close Japan is to facing a major nuclear disaster following the massive earthquake and tsunami on Friday, according to the scientists.

Tokyo Electric Power (TEPCO) workers on Sunday were pouring seawater into two reactor cores at the coastal Fukushima Daiichi power plant and were considering using seawater on a third. Authorities have been forced to vent radioactive steam into the air to relieve pressure in the plant and reactors at the company's nearby Daini plant are also troubled.

"I am not aware of anyone using seawater to cool a reactor core before. They must be desperate to find water and the seawater was the only thing nearby," said Richard Meserve, former chairman of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission and president of the Carnegie Institution, in an interview on Sunday.

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AC_Mem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:56 PM
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1. Seawater
Is there a reason that you wouldn't want to use seawater to cool the reactors? I mean, it is right there, it is cool and it is certainly in abundance.

Wouldn't it be interesting if it turns out that the water on our planet is what ends up saving us from a bigger disaster than what the water from our planet created....

annette
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:00 PM
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2. It corrodes the reactors and makes them useless
Any reactors they use seawater on they have to shut them down permanently
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:03 PM
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5. Well, wouldn't THAT be a shame?
:sarcasm:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:08 PM
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7. But then they have to figure out to seal them off to make them safe
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:43 PM
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9. it's always something...
i was hopeful there, for awhile.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:46 PM
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10. Both reactors were already scheduled for shut down, unlike the um, burning refineries.
They are old reactors.

The fact that moral morons are obsessed with these reactors, are cheering in hopes of people dying from them, and care not a whit about the people who died from thousands of other causes, doesn't say anything at all about the reactors, but it does say a lot about selective attention.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:01 PM
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3. I have been reading that the seawater will render them useless
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 07:02 PM by Lucinda
in the future due to corrosion. If that's the case, it explains why this is a last ditch effort.
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PamW Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:03 PM
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6. Seawater is corrosive to metal.
Is there a reason that you wouldn't want to use seawater to cool the reactors?
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The seawater will do the cooling job. It's just that it is also corrosive to
metal. You don't want to use seawater long term to cool a metal object.

Even the small amount of corrosion from a few days use of seawater cooling
for those reactors probably means they will never run again.

The nuclear regulations are quite strict, and the slightest amount of
corrosive contamination will probably mean the reactors will be written off.

PamW

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AC_Mem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:34 PM
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8. Ah, okay, thank you
I can understand that.

Thanks for the info -

Annette
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:02 PM
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4. every piece of the reactor that the seawater touched is scrap.
then they have to find a way to get rid of the contamination.

japan has a huge problem finding future sources of energy.
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