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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:17 AM Original message |
Japan Nuclear Crisis Revives Long U.S. Fight on Spent Fuel |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. No one state should have to cope with everyone else's spent fuel. nt |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. If we are gong to continue to use nuclear power... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. Too bad we can't be a progressive thinking as Finland. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. That repository will have remain intact for longer than modern humans have inhabited the planet |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Much better to leave it in pools lying all around the country. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Much better not to produce it at all |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. It already has been produced. |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Too late.. that ship has already sailed. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. better is or was or should have been to not make the stuff in the first place |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. again.. that ship has already sailed. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Why? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Remain intact to sequester the inventroy of radionuclides so it doesn't poison Future Finns |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. How does it "poison future Finns" from under 1700 feet of granite? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Have you ever taken a geology class ot even looked at a granite outcrop? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Sure. Have you? |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. one may not mine it from granite... |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. How will 1700ft of granite be installed under all the other nuclear plants on the planet? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Thats the one I want to see also |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Why would it need to be underneath every reactor? |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. What do you see as an end-game for spent fuel? |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. The real end game for spent fuel. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Are actinide burner reactors ready for deployment? Or still experimental? |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. One potential "actinide burner" is Argonne's Integral Fast Reactor (IFR) |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Too expensive? |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. You only need a handful. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Amortize? |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Government has a surplus - not a debt.( the common lie ) |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yeah |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Simple question - what happens at night? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Make the meter run backwards |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. how much do you think.... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. All of your nuclear propaganda points are identified and placed in context by Lovins and others |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. NAS said no such thing - no reputable scientist would misrepresent their work like that |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Just like below where PamW complains that the nuke industries hands were tied by Carter. |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. You are certainly free with money that doesn't belong to you... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Yeah well |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. the industry is doing the cleanup itself. |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Who said I was frustrated???? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Scientist? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. What does it say about your ethics when you falsify the evidence? |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
51. No country has an operational "actinide burner" |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. MIT rejected IFR technology - it can't compete with renewables |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
54. A minor contribution from nuclear woud require a new Yucca Mtn every 2 years. |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. The Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1987 |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Wait. You said we could reuse the spent fuel? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Looks like shipping containers to me |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. two issues - one scientific, and one legal |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. "Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act of 1978" |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. It depends... |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. And what about your comments on the "Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act of 1978"? |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. If memory serves... |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Article |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Fail. |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. The first of several laws... |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Perhaps you can cite the not "wrong law" to back up your claim. n/t |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Or did you cite a non-existant law, perhaps because of YOUR "true agenda"? |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Isn't that obvious??? |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Try again, Pam. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Kicking for a response. n/t |
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