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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:49 PM
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Press Release (Mar 27,2011)—The results of the measurement of puddle of water in the basement of…
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11032714-e.html

Press Release (Mar 27,2011)
The results of the measurement of puddle of water in the basement of the turbine building of Unit 2 of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station(2nd release)

With regard to the captioned result of the measurement that was previously 
announced, we have judged that the estimation concerning the measured
value of ionide-134 was wrong.
Therefore we informed that we would take, analyze and evaluate samples,
and announce the results once we have summarized the results.
(http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11032713-e.html">previously announced)

Since then we have taken samples and analyzed and evaluated the density
of the gamma nuclide including iodine-134, and now we announce the summary
of the results of the measurements as shown in the attachment.

Appendix:http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110327e15.pdf">Result of Contamination Check of Water in the Basement At the Turbine
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110327e15.pdf">Building of Each Unit 2 of Fukushima Daiichi Power Station(PDF 14.1KB)
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:25 AM
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1. "ionide" makes for a distractfully dyslexical Freudian slip.
Oh, and the font is not working for me.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:53 AM
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2. Wonder if all the "I-134 PROVES active fission is occurring" scare mongers
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 08:57 AM by Statistical
will just pretend this update doesn't exist.

Still it is badly contaminated water though.

The plan now would be to get some sump pumps down there and a tank to store waste water in. When my national guard unit was tasked with NBC decontamination after 9/11 (field artillery unit learned about NBC boy that was "fun") we worked with some of this kind of gear.

They make large (10,000+ gallons) heavy rubber bladders for temporarily storing NBC contaminated water. Need something like that here to drain the basement and keep it "dry".
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 09:11 AM
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3. Pretend it doesn't exist? Hardly.
This is the new WTC-7 baby!

Years from now you'll find it all over the conspiracy sites. Thousands of people dead covered up by the Japanese government. Chernobyl-level radiation released to all of these liquidators without their knowledge as active fission was giving them all lethal doses.

The company did a great job of covering it all up, but slipped (or perhaps some brave whistle-blowing lab worker sacrificed his job to get the truth out) and sent out un-"scrubbed" data that proves once and for all how horrible the whole thing was.

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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:00 AM
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4. No
At least I was greatly relieved to see the final results. I also thought the way they released this data was very nice - the initial test, the reassessment, a new reading on the sample hours later and then the testing results of the new sample.

The growing quantities of Lanthanum 140 and Barium 140 are worrisome, but it's totally different than the quantities of I-134 reported.

I suppose they are going to have to work out something to contain the basement water and the trench water on 2, but whatever they do, they'll have to do it quickly. I don't see why they can't discharge some of it into the sea. That would be horrible under normal operations, but as a ahort-term fix it might let them get in there and see where all this is coming from.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:15 AM
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5. A lot would depend on how much water it is.
10,000 gallons, no problem, 10 million gallons - ok far more complex problem.

At a minimum they could filter the water. Remember it isn't radioactive water. It is water that contains material which is radioactive.

Assuming they can achieve a 99% filtration they could just suck, filter, dump the water. The problem with that is the filters will becomes extremely radioactive making working around the filter problematic (in essence the filter is concentrating those million so Bq of material into a smaller space.

Alternatively a faster method (which only works for limited amount of water) is to just temporarily store it in waste water bladders and then filter it later.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 07:23 PM
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6. I gathered today that there is a lot in the trenches
But I also understood that only the No 2 trench has the pretty hot water.

There is also a lot in 3 basements. I saw one suggestion about using tankers. But there is a LOT of water:
http://atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com/

Also I am curious as to how fast the water builds up. I'm guessing the trench water is really just from overflow from all the pool dousing efforts. In that way, it's a good thing. It means far less radioactive water went into the ocean from those efforts than would otherwise be true.

But you do have to get it out of the trenches so they can work. Tonight NISA was saying that TEPCO has to strike a balance between putting water into the reactors to cool them and not overflowing the trenches. I think you have to do both!!! For the workers in the plant, I fear that their fatigue levels and the multiple challenges are becoming overwhelming.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:06 PM
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7. The water in the trench is from reactor #2 via the pipes to the turbines.
PER NHK and the best evidence they have.
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