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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:56 PM
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Greening the V8, or any other engine configuration made, removing oil from
the valve train reduces emissions and the spherical valves increase engine efficiency. If this goes forward as predicted Co2 emissions will be reduced by the internal combustion engine. Looks like they are in the licensing phase and have just signed a rather sizable contract. May the naysayers begin.

www.coatesengine.com
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:00 PM
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1. No naysaying here.. I always thought traditional valves and cams were an odd solution
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:03 PM
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3. This is a forward looking statement, there is a section on the site about code and
conduct. I only pray that this and that other progressive company Blutipower (hydrogen injection) go forward and create a monumental impact on the environment. Firstly if these heads work out, the U.S. military should be forced to use them asap.
http://www.coatesengine.com/press_releases.html
4/6/11

COATES INTERNATIONAL, LTD. RECEIVED NOTICE TODAY, APRIL 6, 2011, FROM THE WORLD BUSINESS GROUP OF DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES THAT THE COATES FLARE OFF GAS POWER PLANT PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED

Friday, April 6, 2011 – For Immediate Release

WALL TOWNSHIP, N.J. – (PR NEWSWIRE) – Coates International, Ltd. (OTCBB: COTE) – Coates International Ltd. (the “Company”) is pleased to announce that it received notice that the flare off gas power plant project is approved. This project is approximately worth $400,000,000 USD.
The power plant was designed by George J. Coates and his son Gregory G. Coates, which will incorporate approximately 300 Coates CSRV 1 to 2 M.W. natural gas electric power engine generators that will be manufactured in China to Coates CSRV specifications.

* Coates International, Ltd. will construct and set up a complete turnkey electric power plant in a designated Arab country.
* The companies that will participate in the project are:
o Sherman Engineering Company
o Luz Construction, Inc.
o J.S.A. Engineering, Inc.
o Almont Energy, Inc.
o The Chinese company that will manufacture the Coates CSRV natural gas engine generators and supply the systems for the project.
o Coates International, Ltd. will manage the entire project.
* 90% of the funding is from Dubai, U.A.E and 10% from the Arab country where the power plant is required.
* As soon as contracts are signed and funds are received the project will start.
* The Dubai U.A.E world business group is also talking with other countries where flare off gas is being released to mimic this project.

Management is extremely satisfied with these events and believes this project will start the ball rolling, and will benefit all companies involved including our share holders.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:08 PM
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9. The founder was arrested in 1994 for selling worthless stock on dubious claims
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:11 PM
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10. So you believe the companies they have signed contracts with will just say, "Oh
you can't deliver any product? That's ok, we weren't wanting to do real business with you." Yup, that's what's gonna go down, uh huh.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:28 PM
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16. I don't believe there are any contracts.
You are just repeating Coates propaganda.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:03 PM
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26. Yes, I'm just repeating Coates propaganda.
http://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5053969/coates-international-ltd-merger-with-a-major-chinese-industrial-engine-and-generator-manufacturer-gets-closer-to-completion-a-delegation-of-top-management-executives-will-visit-coates-headquarters-on-april-26-2011

* Coates International, Ltd. Merger With a Major Chinese Industrial Engine and Generator Manufacturer gets Closer to Completion. A Delegation of Top Management Executives Will Visit Coates Headquarters on April 26, 2011
* Coates International, Ltd. Received Notice Today, April 6, 2011, from the World Business Group of Dubai, United Arab Emirates That the Coates Flare Off Gas Power Plant Project Has Been Approved
* Coates International, Ltd. Announces Plan to Raise New Working Capital Through Insider Stock Sales
* Coates International, Ltd. Converts Related Party Notes to Shares of Stock
* Coates International, Ltd. has Signed a Letter of Intent to Merge With an Established Chinese Industrial Engine and Generator Manufacturer



Apr. 12, 2011 (PR Newswire) --

WALL TOWNSHIP, N.J., April 12, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Coates International, Ltd. (OTCBB: COTE) Coates International Ltd. (the "Company") is pleased to announce that a delegation of top executives, including the company president of a major Chinese engine and generator manufacturer, will visit the Coates headquarters for the second time. Both companies have already executed letters of intent to merge the companies. The executives will stay for thirty days and visit Almont Energy, Inc. in Alberta, Canada. This will bring us close to consummating the merger.

Management believes this is one of the most significant moves the company will make. This merger will benefit both companies including our shareholders.

* Details of the merger and name of the company cannot be divulged at this time. However, as soon as all documents are fully executed more information will be released.
* Coates International is presently negotiating with financers to acquire $10,000,000 of working capital to ramp up production in the USA.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:02 PM
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2. Bullshit vaporware.
The Coates parts have been promised as being just around the corner since the 1980s. The parts do not exist. Shitloads of small block Chevies would be wearing them if they would make a sell them. It's a scam. We went over all of this just about a month ago in this very forum.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:05 PM
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6. Are you a career naysayer??




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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:06 PM
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7. They have deliverewd no parts.
Your benefactor is a scammer.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:27 PM
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14. The Better Business Bureau disagrees with you.


COATES INTERNATIONAL, LTD. SHIPS INDUSTRIAL CSRV ELECTRIC POWER ENGINE GENERATOR TO CANADA

Friday, November 19, 2010 the Company shipped the first CSRV industrial electric power natural gas engine generator to Almont Energy, Inc., our licensed customer in Canada. The exclusive Canadian license with Almont Energy, Inc. provides for an annual minimum purchase of 120 CSRV electric power systems by Almont in order to maintain their license exclusivity. This equates to sales by the Company of approximately $15,000,000 per year. However, the Company’s business plan currently anticipates manufacturing and shipping significantly more than 120 CSRV electric power systems yearly.

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:29 PM
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17. The BBB is corrupt.
There have been threads on that at DU. Really, you are pissing up a rope.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:18 PM
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29. Industry Today is corrupt and Almont Energy of Canada is corrupt and on and
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 05:19 PM by HysteryDiagnosis
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x900293

http://www.usitoday.com/article_view.asp?ArticleID=2023

With the research and development phase now complete, Coates is gearing up for production and distribution of it s SCRV-powered engines. The company has also received several multi-million dollar orders for its spherical rotary valve system based automotive and natural gas engines.
CSRV-powered engines are capable of running in anything - cars, boats, motorcycles, buses - and on a number of different fuels, such as gasoline, natural gas, methanol, ethanol, hydrogen and diesel. Oil changes are extended to approximately 50,000 miles instead of every 3,000 miles; and in some cases oil changes are not necessary. Maintenance is drastically reduced. There is increased power and torque, reduced fuel consumption and dramatically reduced emissions.

"Coates has commenced production of its model C86GE natural gas engine and the C86GG natural gas generator system, both based on CSRV technology. We have also completed several engine prototypes equipped with its CSRV, five for automobiles and two for motorcycles. The most recent automobile prototype has been started over 7,000 times and has been road tested over 40,000 miles. The motorcycle engines were retrofitted for a major motorcycle manufacturer," says Coates.

Realization & Roadblocks
Despite a revolutionary product and sound mission, there are still roadblocks. "We've had the big three here several times, but the problem is changing and educating the staff to the new technology. They would have to learn to make these new engines and it's expensive to change. They've been doing the old engines for 60 years. And I'm afraid to say it but the U.S is a bit stuck in their ways. They know we have this technology, but movement has been slow. " Coates predicts the first engines to use this technology will be in foreign overseas.

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:24 PM
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30. Almont Energy to use Coates Spherical Rotary Valve Engines
http://www.almontenergy.com/index.php?page_name=Corporate+Information&page_id=d1efe427-791a-4efc-681f-4cf71f42c158

Product Features

* Combusts the fuel more efficiently which results in Ultra-Low Green House Gas (GHG) Emissions and significantly lower fuel use (~20% fuel savings).
* Has an Operating Cost that is 25% lower than any Internal Combustion engine, since no oil is used in the top end of the CSRV engine.
* Uses natural gas, propane, biomass gas or sewage plant digester gas.
* Incorporates the Patented Coates Spherical Rotating Valve (CSRV) engines that are designed to directly burn sour/acidic gases and run without oil circulating throughout the overhead valve system.

Data Sheet
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:07 PM
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8. I like the idea of being paid, that would be nice, are you paid by the oil companies
to squelch things that go contrary to their interests? I break my back everyday for my paycheck, so you can put that little dig where it fits.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:32 PM
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20. The founder was arrested in 1994 for selling worthless stock on dubious claims
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:04 PM
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27. Running your mouth vs reading what is recently happening, two very different
things.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:05 PM
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5. Not really all that novel of an idea.. The Dodge HEMI engine was invented in 1951.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/hemi1.htm

I drive a 2008 Dodge Charger RT with a 5.7L HEMI as my daily driver.

It has a 5 speed automatic transmission and mult-displacement engine feature that turns off two or four cylinders in cruise.

In spite of being a big block V8 and heavy car and having an automatic transmission it gets 23 MPG.

My Camaro has the late 80's vintage LT1 engine w a 6 speed manual transmission and gets 32 MPG because of the transmission.

The best thing you could do for improving fuel economy is start driving a stick.

Doug
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:14 PM
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11. It looks like ball-bearings not tapered roller bearings
never saw a ball bearing last long under heat caused by friction without lubrication.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:28 PM
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15. Hmmmm looks like spherical valves spinning on ceramic seals to me. n/t
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:30 PM
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18. That's what they claim.
Pity they have not been able to produce any running examples for sale to the public since they started advertising in the 1980s.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:32 PM
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21. He's talking about the bearings at the end of the shaft.
They do, indeed, look like ball bearings.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:38 PM
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23. They have used that same picture since I first saw them in Super Ford magazine.
That was a long time ago.

Hot rodders, especially wealthy hot rodders, will buy just about anything if it promises to go fast. Wealthy hot rodders want the newest and loudest and will pay their engine builder to put it together. Hot rodders like me build our own stuff and are careful about our purchases and farm out machine work we can't do at home. Either way we keep up on what's new. The Coates stuff has been promised as long as the promised "New Morning" of Reaganomics and the Coates claims have panned out every bit as well.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:45 PM
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25. Sure, and they drive those modified vehicles very little.
There's an enormous difference between a hot rodder, who loves twiddling with the bits and pieces, and the average driver, who has no interest in what's under the hood, and can barely keep the oil changed on schedule.

I found it interesting that the only video of a running engine was one of their natural gas stationary engines. Run at constant speeds under constant loads, they're the easiest engine in the world to design. Continental used to power a lot of cars, way back when, using the same engines that were used in their stationary engine business. Not one of those brands is still in business.

I love engines. Love 'em to pieces. I have one of those Wankel outboards in the shop, which I hope to get running again. Parts are the issue, but I have a line on the stuff I need.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:44 PM
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24. Spherical ceramic Roller Bearing to be exact
Which aren't cheap enough for mass production. And when it comes o the auto manufacturers, cheap is the operative word.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:56 AM
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37. Check out some of the prices for those babies
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:48 PM
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35. "Spherical Valves" is not the same as "Hemispherical" Combustion Chamber.
If it works, you should be able to wring out a lot more RPMs (Horsepower).
The limiting RPM factor in the OHV V-8 IS the valve train.
NASCAR V-8s now hit 10,000 RPM and about 800 HP, and the valve train causes more DNFs (by far) than the bottom end.

While I love the concept, I'm a skeptic.
If it DID work, the Racers & Rodders would already have them.

.
.
.
My wife & I drive "sticks",
and wouldn't have it any other way.


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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:15 PM
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12. Well, then. I think you should invest everything you have in this
wonderful technology. It's bound to pay off, eh?

Oh, wait...blue sky technologies. Has anyone ever made anything on this crap? I doubt it.

If it worked, they'd be making it. They're not. It doesn't work, wears out too quickly, requires too much maintenance, or is far too costly for automotive use.

Take your pick.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:24 PM
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13. So it's about making money... hmmmmm, interesting that.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:30 PM
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19. Of course it is. Do you thing the person promoting this is doing it
for love of the environment? Really? One does not design and market a product like this without expecting to make money on it. Blue Sky Technologies is always a bad investment, whatever they call themselves.

Every "new" internal combustion engine design that shows up promises similar things. None ever go into production. Do you know why?

The only alternative to either valved 4-stroke or ported 2-stroke engines that have gone into extensive production is the Wankel. Today, only Mazda makes one for automotive use, and they don't sell many of them, either. NSU used to have a Wankel-engine car. That didn't last long. There was a Wankel-engine outboard motor that had a short life on the marketplace. There was even a motorcycle with a Wankel engine. Only the Mazda remains.

Do you know why?
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:34 PM
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22. They are traded

A penny stock.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=OTC:COTE

My guess is OP has gone long, LOL.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:06 PM
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28. the combustion chamber makes no sense and
why go with this technology when pneumatic or eclectic valve actuators will be used. diesel engines solve all these problems and are far more economical than gasoline engines.

anyone want to buy a bridge?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:26 PM
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31. You seen the ridiculous emissions gear on the new diesels? It's enough to make
you want to heave and they ain't done yet, urea tanks are coming oh joy!!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:43 PM
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32. Urea has been used in Europe for over vten years with great success.
And here for four years now...cleanest diesel emission engines with the best fuel economy, ever.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:47 PM
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33. Fine, you work on the crap... simpler is better and I know how the mileage
ratings have dropped on the big three diesels in the states in the last 5 years or so. It is pitiful.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:06 PM
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36. I agree. Note they have no diagram of shape of it.
The circular valves, when closed, will impose themselves on the combustion chamber, making it an odd shape and affecting the complete burn of the mixture.

At the least, need more info to convince me to get excited.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:16 PM
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34. Pop that sucker on top of a Wave Disk
and you have an engine that creates gasoline! (runs backward, but they're working on that)

http://pesn.com/2011/04/14/9501810_Wave_Disk_Engine_Sips_Fuel/
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:53 PM
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38. So.... after reading this post
I did some research and bought shares at $0.20

Today it closed at $0.37
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