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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:04 AM
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Tepco's 6-9 month plan handout reveals concern over hydrogen explosions
Edited on Mon Apr-18-11 01:05 AM by flamingdem
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/04/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-tepcos-schedule.html

Show me your happy face, it's all under control, eat your spinach and fuku fish.

----------SNIP

In Reactors 1, 2 and 3, the fuel pellets are partially damaged but they are being cooled by water; continue injecting fresh water, and come up with other cooling systems.

Currently injecting fresh water into Reactor Pressure Vessels, but the risk is that the steam within the Containment Vessel will condense due to lower temperature , increasing the amount of hydrogen and the chance of a hydrogen explosion.

In Reactors 1, 2, and 3, there is a high possibility that the small amount of radioactive steam has been escaping from the Containment Vessels through cracks (or gaps, openings) that had been caused by the high temperature.

----------MORE AT LINK
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:06 AM
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1. What are the odds of NOT having that explosion?
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:07 AM
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2. Lol, after reading that Tepco thinks so it looks pretty certain
Edited on Mon Apr-18-11 01:08 AM by flamingdem
I'm putting my bet on 1 and hoping it is not 3.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:18 AM
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3. Some obviously have an incredible ability to believe contradictory things...
... As long as they're both emergencies.

Tell me FD... If the fuel is still melting and active fission is going on inside the core... why on earth would you be worried about it getting too cold in there???
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:03 AM
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4. Huh? This is a quote from Tepco's handout nt
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:26 AM
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5. Tepco isn't an example of what I was talking about.
:)

You're the one who just yesterday said that the cores were "melting". This would directly contradict that (as would scores of other things).

So which one do you think it reality? They can't both be.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:36 AM
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7. Tepco admitted to melting of cores in all three reactors nt
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:40 AM
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8. Past tense... not present tense.
It makes a difference.

Active fission in one of those cores would also be contradicted by this story.

Are you ready to give up that BS as well?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:35 AM
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6. The point is you can't logically be concerned about
Edited on Mon Apr-18-11 10:35 AM by Statistical
a) core melting because it is too hot.
b) hydrogen explosion from condensing steam because it is too cold.

at least not at the same time.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:41 AM
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9. Unless flamingdem is just a cover identity...
...for the Queen of Hearts.

:)
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 11:03 AM
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10. Read the report if you want to understand what Tepco is saying
It's in their 6-9 month plan
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 11:35 AM
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11. What they're saying is clear... it's what you've been saying that's contradictory.
You'll latch onto anything that looks like bad news even if it directly contradicts the other positions you've been taking.

Pretty funny actually.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 12:05 PM
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14. Oh yes there is so much great news about the reactors! The OP cites what Tepco wrote
and not my position - which sounds like something made up in your head by the way
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 12:11 PM
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15. Spin and avoidance.
Edited on Mon Apr-18-11 12:13 PM by FBaggins
A lack of "great news" about the reactors does not demonstrate that some other position is accurate.

The OP cites what Tepco wrote and not my position

"Show me your happy face, it's all under control, eat your spinach and fuku fish." sure seems to imply that you think this is accurate bad news. It probably IS accurate, but disproves your prior positions and isn't all that great a concern.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 11:47 AM
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12. Yeah. "at least not at the same time."

But haven't the temps been fluctuating enough to make management of the reactors a tightrope walk?

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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 12:03 PM
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13. No.
Not if the "tightrope walk" is between "further meltdown" and "dangerously cool".
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