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Marje Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:41 AM
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Worldwide Radiation Movement from Fukushima
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 11:52 AM by Marje
UPDATING ANIMATION: Here is a link from the Department of Atmospheric and Climate Research, The Norwegian Institute for Air Research (NILU)

http://transport.nilu.no/browser/fpv_fuku?fpp=conccol_Xe-133_;region=NH

If the above link doesn't work, try this one by Bitly

http://bit.ly/ffH8Ws

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:48 AM
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1. Good links. Time to eat some Kelp! nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:03 PM
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2. Kelp? You might check it for radioactivity first.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:18 PM
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3. There is crap in kelp probably, but I bought it pre 3/11, no iodine/cesium nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:22 PM
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4. Well, no radioactive iodine for sure.
Radioactive Cs? Not so sure -- Chernobyl, TMI, various atmospheric nuclear tests. Probably some Cs-137 in there, but not much.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:32 PM
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5. Cesium is showing up all over the world now, and wasn't before
EPA test results show the exact dates where it begins to show up as the plume reached the USA.

Otherwise it was below detectable in terms of EPA equipment.

I do not think the case can be made that it's no big deal cesium is spread all over due to the catastrophe
in Japan, but nice try!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:42 PM
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6. Let me put this gently:
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 12:45 PM by Buzz Clik
I was making no case at all, but your response is pure bullshit. Unadulterated bullshit.

Read this, and reconsider your position. http://ssfl.msfc.nasa.gov/documents/technical/Natural_Variations_of_Cesium-137.pdf
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:50 PM
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7. I don't click links with no idea what they are about
so please summarize.

Obviously there are people in this forum that are pro-nuke and otherwise I did not see the point of your comments.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:55 PM
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8. Background concentrations of Cs-137 in soils post Chernobyl/TMI -- 1994
All detectable.

The interesting thing about detecting radioisotopes: if you're simply measuring radioactivity, you can just about always get a detection. Just keep reading. If EPA was reporting non-detects, they were either lying or incompetent. I'd love to see the link to your supporting data.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:44 PM
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9. Go on the epa site, they are posting everything
and isotopes are there
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:12 PM
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10. Everything except...
... anything that says that background levels of Cs-137 are below detection limits.

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SpoonFed Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 05:25 AM
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11. Background radiation

I think it's a bit misleading to talk about Chornobyl-created radioactive isotopes as background, they are the nuclear fission power industry and accidents pollutants. Not like stuff in bananas and outerspace, or in naturally occurring ore deposits in the ground.

Since the Chornobyl disaster, they have unfortunately been spread far and wide like what is happening with Fukushima, and yes, that means the baseline measurements for this crap has increased in places.
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