Thom Hartmann asks "Fourth Turning" author about world war: "clearly the line-up is there"

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Full video posted in the video forum:
"Thom Hartmann & Neil Howe: Are we in the Fourth Turning?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x604440

Rough transcript of that part:

5:50 Hartmann: "Are we on the verge of another ‘fourth turning', of another major crash that could lead to a world war and a world-wide depression?"

6:00 Howe: "Um, well i hope it won't be bad
I hope the destructive will be avoided to the extent possible
and the constructive which always come out of the fourth turning, it's normally a constructive era, will be maximized
but clearly the line-up is there
our elder leadership are those born after the last crisis
they don't remember it
this is what historian Toynbee called the great trigger of the long cycle of war
those who start the next war are just too young to remember the last one"

For those who haven't been paying attention:

What are the odds of nuclear war?

Professor Martin Hellman, inventor of public key encryption, estimates 1% per year:

http://www.nuclearrisk.org/risk.php

As explained in the paper, there is preliminary evidence that deterrence can be expected to work for about 100 years, which is far too high a risk. Aside from concern for future generations, that time horizon implies roughly a 1% chance of failure in any given year and a 10% chance of failure in any decade. With a 100 year time horizon, every 15 years is like pulling the trigger in a game of Russian roulette in which the whole world is at stake. Every 30 years is like pulling the trigger twice in that suicidal game. A sane person would never play Russian roulette even once. Neither would a sane world.

Why is this an Environment and Energy issue?

John Holdren, Obama's Science Advisor:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x288741

"The most important environmental liability of
nuclear fission is neither the routine nor accidental emissions
of radioactivity, but the deliberate misuse of nuclear facilities
and materials for acts of terrorism and war."
- John Holdren, Assessing Environmental Risks of Energy

John Holdren is President Obama's science advisor.
Despite the million-year waste disposal problem,
the mining, milling, and tailings,
the meltdowns, leaks, and venting,
nuclear weapons are still the most important environmental problem with nuclear energy.