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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 09:39 PM
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Rasmussen poll on global warming
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/environment_energy/69_say_it_s_likely_scientists_have_falsified_global_warming_research

The number of adults who say it’s likely scientists have falsified data is up 10 points from December 2009: 69% Say It’s Likely Scientists Have Falsified Global Warming Research

The debate over global warming has intensified in recent weeks after a new NASA study was interpreted by skeptics to reveal that global warming is not man-made. While a majority of Americans nationwide continue to acknowledge significant disagreement about global warming in the scientific community, most go even further to say some scientists falsify data to support their own beliefs.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say this is Very Likely. Twenty-two percent (22%) don’t think it’s likely some scientists have falsified global warming data, including just six percent (6%) say it’s Not At All Likely. Another 10% are undecided.

Fifty-seven percent (57%) believe there is significant disagreement within the scientific community on global warming, up five points from late 2009. One in four (25%) believes scientists agree on global warming. Another 18% aren’t sure.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 09:43 PM
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1. scary, the campaign of misinformation is
is quite successful.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 09:43 PM
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2. "some scientists"
Being human, I would have to assume that some scientist somewhere working on this matter has falsified some data. If asked, I would have to concede that is likely the case. That does not change the fact that the vast bulk of climatic scientists are reporting the actual facts and that the only real appreciable fraud going on is from the fossil fuel industries.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 09:43 PM
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3. Most people are not going to care about global warming in a crappy economy..
It's just not a priority and folks are going to look for any excuse to ignore the problem.

I admire Al Gore and the people sounding the alarm, but they are just beating their heads against a wall right now. The public will care about the environment more once the economy turns around, then they will be more receptive to accepting the science.
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obama14 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 10:45 PM
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4. They look at it like the hole in the ozone layer.
Remember in the 80s the HUGE outcry about the ozone layer? Where is that now? I think people tire of things that don't effect them immediately.

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 03:45 AM
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5. I wish they did.
The problem with the ozone layer triggered (justifiably) significant
actions on the part of manufacturers *and* consumers. The result was
a huge decrease in the amount of ozone destroying chemicals being
pushed into the atmosphere and a corresponding improvement in the
ozone layer.

If people were truly looking at AGW in the same way as CFCs (et al)
then there would have been a major improvement in behaviour already.

We're not seeing that.

> I think people tire of things that don't effect them immediately.

Whilst I don't disagree with you that we (collectively) suffer from
a really bad cultural case of ADD, the ozone issue was a poor example
to choose to illustrate it.

:shrug:
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