CITGO TELLS STATION OWNER NOT TO CARRY ETHANOL

[JohnWxy]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=40697&mesg_id=40699

I don't have an E85 car so I can buy only one or two dollars at a time, but I support the station with purchases and calls for other people to purchase. I plan on asking him to put in an E15 pump. The owner broke relations with Citco because they did not want him offering alcohol fuels.

[benburch]

1. That is because the fuels were not from Citgo.

When you have a branded station, and do not offer branded fuels, that is a franchise violation.

No shame to Citgo.

[liam_laddie]

3. Citgo

I believe that Citgo is owned by the Venezuelan national oil company. There's only one Citgo
station left in this city, SFAIK, and if it wasn't such a drive to get to, I'd fill up there all the time,
as I think Chavez ought to be supported in his drive to get out from under the economic yoke
of multi-national corporations, World Bank and IMF, essentially the enslavers world-wide.

Also, per your other thread, I've heard consistently that all the alternative fuels require more
energy to produce than they "save." Mostly fossil fuels are used for the heat processes needed
for the conversion. Now if there were a non-extractive source of energy which could substitute
for the oil or coal currently used, it might make sense. Maybe solar energy could be captured
in some way to drive the conversion. Or nuclear, if made truly safe and the "hot" waste can be
re-processed. Interesting engineering challeges ahead.

Bush and hydrogen - absurd on the science. More bicycles, more sweaters, more compact
cities, more mass transit where feasible (Viva le Metro!) BTW, on dailykos, poster "Jerome a Paris"
(and others) often have very knowledgeable posts about energy issues.

[NNadir]

7. Curse that Chavez.

[JohnWxy]

4. the practical result is ethanol is restricted from market access.

THis is why a public policy to make ethanol more widely available is necessary - in other words, when it's the public interest - FIND A WAY. LIke Citco could offer E85 of their own - but that won't ever happen until the public acts to make it happen.

I would like to be able to find E10 or E15 and if I had a FFV - E85 - especially since E85 is selling for $1.69 a gallon!!

..GOSH, I wonder if THAT may be why Citgo doesn't want an ethanol pump at that station.

[benburch]

5. Well, Write Citgo!

Companies tend to respond to consumer demand only once they are aware that the demand exists!

[htuttle]

2. I'm pretty sure Citgo sells E15 in Wisconsin

I think all gas stations are required to here.

[Viking12]

6. Not yet. Legislation is pending in WI to require stations to carry ethanol