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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:30 PM
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List of New and Used Diesel Cars Available in the U.S.
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 07:30 PM by Dover
http://www.grassolean.com/?textFile=dieselcars

NEW CARS:

VOLKS WAGON (TDI)
VW Touareg with V10 TDI
Jetta sedan and wagon
Golf
New Beetle
LANDROVER
Land Rover LR3 (2005 model)
MERCEDES
No longer sells a diesel in the US; but Mercedes-Benz has said it will offer a diesel-powered version of its 2004 model E Class sedans on the US market
SUVs
Jeep Liberty CRD (2005 model)
Hummer H1
Saab 9-7X, a diesel SUV due out this fall.
Mercedes M Class (2006 in USA)
Ford Excursion
Chevrolet Suburban diesel
discontinued in 1999

USED CARS

from most available to least available (more or less)
VOLKS WAGON (TDI)
Jetta
New Beetle
Golf
MID-90s
Passat
Pickup
Vanagon
MERCEDES DIESELS
'81 to '85:
(Sedans and wagons)
300D
SD
SDL
Earlier:
300D
240D
The 300s were 5-cylinder, later models have turbo, the 240s all 4-cylinder non-turbo.
Later:
'87 300TD wagon, 6-cylinder
'87 300SD (big body) sedan,
190D, 6-cylinder non-turbo 4-cylinder - later models may have turbo
1990's:
300D sedans
300TD wagons went back to a 5-cylinder turbo 300SD still had the 6-cylinder
350
Unimog truck
VOLKS WAGON
non-TDI turbos and non-turbos
Jetta
Golf
Rabbit
Quantum
Dasher
Pickup
Vanagon
First diesel Rabbits from around 1979

OTHERS
Audi 5000 diesel 1979-83
BMW diesels:
524TD
528TD, 1984-1985, 6-cylinder. Rare. The same engine was used in the mid-'80s
Lincoln Continental Town Car also rare.
Volvo diesel car
5-cylinder non-turbo and turbo
Peugeot diesels:
The turbodiesel in the 505 sedans and wagons is a good engine, rare. The non-turbo in the 504 was pokey, rare
Nissan Camry
Nissan Sentra
Nissan pickup (4x4 turbo diesel)
Isuzu Imark car 1.8 liter
Isuzu PUP pickup truck
2.2liter non-turbo and turbo
Toyota Pickup
Toyota Camry
Mazda Pickup truck 1984 B2200
Mazda 626 1985
Mitsubishi Mighty Max Pickup truck
General Motors
The infamous Oldsmobile diesel engines
made by General Motors from1978-1985 The V8 5.7 liter was fitted to Oldsmobile sedans, Cadillacs and Chevrolets, and some pick-ups.
The V6 4.3 liter came in small front wheel drive vehicles, e.g. Cutlass Calais
Chevrolet car (3.5L)
Chevrolet trucks
(6.2L-6.5L, Duramax diesel)
Chevrolet LUV
(Isuzu pickup)
Chevrolet Chevette
(1.8 liter Isuzu diesel engine)
Ford
Powerstroke diesel, from 1997 ? direct-injection, electronic controls, in pickups, vans, the Expedition, and the Excursion
Pre-1997: Ford/Navistar 7.3L V8, preceded by the Ford/Navistar 6.9L V8, both indirect injection.
Ford Topaz (Mazda diesel)
Dodge trucks (Cummings diesel)
SUVs
Chevrolet Suburban 6.2 and 6.5 GM diesel
International Scout
Stock Nissan diesel motor
Isuzu Trooper 2.2 liter non-turbo and turbo
Toyota Land Cruisers imported from Canada.
Chrysler Jeep (diesels brought in from Canada)
Pre-74 Land Rovers, 4 cyl. 2.5 non-turbo diesel

COMING SOON
GM will be bringing out a V6 version of the Duramax for smaller vehicles (smaller than current 3/4-ton truck) Ford V6 4.5-liter "baby Powerstroke" found in F-150 pickups, Expeditions and E-150 vans, by 2005 these could end up in SUVs
Ford is planning a clean-running diesel for the Ford Focus car. Detroit Diesel "Delta" V6 diesel - common-rail, direct injection - to be installed in SUVs and light trucks. Mercedes is to offer a diesel-powered version of its 2004 model E Class sedans. VW 12-cylinder diesel rumored for use in new VW SUVs yet to be produced List compiled by journeytoforever.org

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European Car Manufacturers have developed a number of desirable, clean, quiet and very fuel efficient diesels that are not available in this country. 2006 is the year that diesel fuel standards will change in this country and a cleaner diesel will become available. But I haven't seen any evidence that this will translate to increased options for diesel vehicles.

Anyone have any experience with ordering vehicles from overseas? Do share!

It seems that Volvo has tried to make it as easy as possible, but don't know anyone who's done it.

http://www.volvocars.us/FinancialServices/Overseas/

Today's diesels are far better. The real problem with diesels in this country is that they emit more oxides of nitrogen (NOX), that soot you see spewing out the back of city buses.

The problems are that: a) American diesel fuel isn't refined nearly as much as that of European diesel (there are multiple grades of diesel in Europe and none of it is as grimy as the stuff we get at the pump); and b) diesel combusts at a higher temperature and under more pressure than gasoline. Both factors, along with the poor grade of American diesel, contribute to dirtier emissions.

That's why diesels can't be sold in several states in the U.S., including California. Americans will get cleaner-grade diesel in 2006, but cleaner fuel alone won't solve the NOX problem. Technology may come along to finally defeat the NOX problem, and in fact this seems quite likely, given the ever-increasing incentive to squeeze more power out of a barrel of crude.

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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 11:40 AM
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1. Soot is unburned carbon
The real problem with diesels in this country is that they emit more oxides of nitrogen (NOX), that soot you see spewing out the back of city buses.

The soot you see coming out is unoxidized carbon. Typically due to dirty fuel injectors and the quality of the fuel. But will also result when the engine is cold.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 11:47 AM
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2. Stay away from the 'infamous Oldsmobile diesels'
There's a reason they're infamous. They were converted from gas engines, and had all sorts of problems. They tend to be one of the worst when it comes to starting in colder climates.

Stick with diesels that were designed to be diesels.

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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:52 PM
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3. Biodiesel questions...
If I were to find a used diesel car...say something small like a VW, can I use biodiesel in that engine without any conversion?

How hard is it to find the biodiesel?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:57 AM
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4. Here is a great site that will answer all your questions
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 08:02 AM by Dover
Just go to the chatrooms or read the list of FAQs. Also has a biodiesel locator so you can find it in your area:

http://www.grassolean.com/
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