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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 08:17 AM Original message |
fuel ethanol, factor of ten gain, in liquid energy content |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. a savings of almost 500,000 - that is awesome. |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. ??? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. the BTUs to make gas 1.27; to make ethanol .7 - the diff is 500,000 |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. post is about the gain in liquid fuel, about a factor of ten |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. my looking at the data and being foolish about what I wrote. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. tomorrow's "cellulosic" ethanol? |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. ethanol is about 1 to a little over 1 ERoEI |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. who cares?, ethanol --> ten to one gain, in liquid fuel |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. dupe |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. You clearly don't understand what I wrote. |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. most things are less than unity |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Oil is 10 to 30 ERoEI. Ethanol is about unity in terms of fossil fuel/ |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. only if you ignore, the most important issue, the input |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Here is a citation for ya |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. you have to start somewhere |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Gasoline is not less than unity, WTF are you talking about? |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. where do you think gasoline comes from? |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. You have to look at the whole cycle of extraction/production, |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. If I start with an empty tank and fill up at Exxon, my return is infinite. |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. BTU is a bad measurement tool |
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