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Klimmer Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:10 PM
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Who Killed the Electric Car? Lots of resources here . . .
See the original post here in Auto Ethusiasts Group:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=310x648

We know who don't we?
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
Looking forward to this film. I wish it was out on DVD right now.

How about a book or 2 on converting your Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) driven car to Electric?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1879857944/ref=pd_bxgy_img_b/102-1976964-0516150?%5Fencoding=UTF8
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0830642315/ref=pd_bxgy_img_b/102-1976964-0516150?%5Fencoding=UTF8

The Toyota Prius can be converted to Plug-in and get 100+ mpg (I'm sure many of you know this already but it is worth repeating):
http://www.calcars.org

Hey! Toyota is coming around and talking publically about making their Hybrid cars plug-in-able. That is really good news.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2114109,00.html
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:14 PM
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1. Why the need for "domestic energy" in an increasingly globalized world?
:D

I'm not knocking the Toyota.

I find it odd at where globalization is applauded and where we're supposed to be pro-"tribalism", as it's called.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:49 PM
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2. Distributed power and fuel production
(consumer-and-community based power and fuel production) is one of the oligarchs' worst nightmares.

So despite all the talk, expect the sort of large-scale projects that the oligarchs love -- and control. With these sorts of deals (and this sort of architecture), there are just so many levels on which you can chisel the (eventual) consumer; moreover, these consumers don't stay consumers -- they become addicts.

And with all this hype about fuel-cell vehicles, it's "surprising" that the hypsters don't use the the more-correct term: "fuel-cell electric-vehicles". (Fuel-cells are essentially just really good batteries -- that run off of a replenishable fuel and external oxygen: which in, say, space, also needs to be provided.)

But if they used that term, people might start thinking "Why not just use electricity to 'fuel' electric-vehicles, and skip the whole hydrogen deal; it's not like it grows on trees?".

Couldn't have that.

And yes, there needs to be improvement in (conventional) battery-powered electric-vehicles. But current technology is adequate for the uses of many people, and others could easily adapt to it. Moreover, you build a market by selling units -- not destroying them.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:38 AM
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3. Sorry I missed this the first time around
I cannot wait for the movie either..
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