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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:19 PM
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Senators and congresspeople pose with 100 mpg car
And how many of them ran back to Big Oil lobbyists to shake them down for more money and promise to kill off any threat to oil dominance just like they murdered the electric car?


http://www.calcars.org/phevs-in-dc.html

This is a modified Prius that has to be plugged in. You can see the big battery in the trunk.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:22 PM
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1. Did Hastert return to an SUV?
For a ride of two blocks?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:30 PM
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2. The nearest oil lobbyist was probably 1 block away eom
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 10:05 PM
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3. "Pose" being the operative verb in this case . . .
:eyes:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:00 AM
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8. Exactly. nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 10:14 PM
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4. Ethanol-Powered Car Ranks Top in Fuel-Efficiency .. (May 06)
Ethanol-Powered Car Ranks Top in Fuel-Efficiency at Shell Eco-Marathon
22 May 2006

The winner

An ethanol-powered car has achieved the best fuel efficiency at the just-concluded Shell Eco-marathon 2006. The car, engineered by students from the Lycee La Joliverie (France) also took the “Climate Friendly” prize for producing the least greenhouse gas emissions in the process.

The winning car completed seven laps of the Nogaro circuit in southwest France, with an energy consumption equivalent to 2,885 km/liter of gasoline: .0347 liters/100km or 6,779 mpg US ...

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/05/ethanolpowered_.html
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:22 PM
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5. The claim that it gets 100 mpg is a bunch of hogwash.
Comments like that wouldn't piss me off so much if people actually admitted it get "100 miles per gallon plus an unspecified amount of electricity coming from the worst fossil fuel imaginable, coal" but that isn't how it is marketed. When you say something gets a certain mpg, you put in a gallon of fuel and see how far it goes. Giving it extra energy from something that cannot be measured on a gallon per gallon equivalent is cheating and deceitful.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 04:57 AM
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6. I heard
that someone developed a deisel engine that will get about 100 mpg's but I haven't been able to research it yet..

Deisel would be the way to go for increased mpg's..
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 08:52 AM
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7. There are two issues here.
First, even though it gets some of its energy from coal, the inherent efficiency of a battery-electric vehicle means it's using substantially less energy to get from point A to point B when it is powered by electricity. (I don't know the exact figures, but from what I've read, it's using less than half of the fossil fuels it would have used per mile.)

The other issue is, we have coal, lots of it. We don't have much petroleum. So this car might well be a wash as far as fossil fuel consumption goes, but it would be very good in terms of reducing our dangerous dependence on imported petroleum.

So while this car isn't by any means the ultimate solution, it might be a good bridge to the ultimate solution (whatever that turns out to be).
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