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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:56 PM
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Wheat region shifts north by 2050 (a picture essay)
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:59 PM
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1. Learn to garden, people
And get serious about getting informed about water rights.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:02 PM
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3. Garden what? Canadians?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:15 PM
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6. If you have a window and floor space for a bag of soil, you can grow greens
and any food you produce yourself might be the difference in surviving sometime soon.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:19 PM
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7. Maybe....
On the one hand, you're right, a garden might
keep a person alive.

But with climate change...with failing rains...
I wonder if that garden has a chance. Can we
water it? Can the plants grow?

Dead serious. I really wonder if a garden
isn't just another case of trying to treat
cancer with a band-aid.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:23 PM
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8. didn't say to garden in lieu of taking other actions
But one can't address problems dead and greens are important in avoiding that dead state ;)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:39 AM
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17. Produce will get so expensive, the only way to have tomatoes will be to
Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 11:40 AM by kestrel91316
grow our own. Check out Square Foot Gardening. You'd be amazed what you can grow in tiny spaces.

Here in LA the heat is becoming the limiting factor. It got to 119 this summer. Killed my entire garden in spite of watering.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:01 PM
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2. can you say dust bowl...?
Wow. That is gonna hurt.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:12 PM
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5. No prob: as you can see, Alaska will be America's new bread basket!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:47 PM
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9. yeah, climate wise-- fertile soil and tillable acreage are a different...
Edited on Mon Dec-04-06 01:49 PM by mike_c
...matter altogether. Much of that region is tundra and tiaga. If the permafrost melts it will take a long time to become arable, if it ever does.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:40 PM
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10. I was gonna say, isn't that soil mostly thin and rocky?
Just how productive is Arctic soil compared to the soil found in the Great Plains region?
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:47 PM
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11. Indeed. I doubt anybody's going to be farming the Canadian Rockies.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:41 AM
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18. I like how the map shows wheat being grown on Denali.
Maybe they will terrace it..........
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:07 PM
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4. Eat pancakes now while you still can!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:32 PM
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12. 1/2 of that area is where the tar sand smog will be. I think Alberta is
planning on going nuclear to boil the tar sands. Which is clean until you think that the waste from nuclear plants stays around for thousands of years.

If the choice is between wheat and oil..who do ya think will win?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 10:51 PM
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13. It would not bother me to see wheat disappear, but not this way.
celiac sprue runs in the family, no wheat barley or rye allowed. Should I be kind of happy about this?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:43 AM
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19. Loss of wheat will make the cost of all other grains/carb sources go up.
No man is an island.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:04 AM
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14. Isn't CIMMYT a major cheerleader for GM crops?
Just saying this bears somewhat on the bioclimatographic conclusions. This is on the extreme of things I've previously seen for warming effects on the upper midwest.



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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 02:04 PM
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15. Does anyone know what temperature increase is assumed
for this map?

I can't find anything in the BBC report.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:56 PM
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16. Just relax everybody...there is and has been a SOLution for some time...
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 07:10 PM by autorank



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