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Emperor_Norton_II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:08 AM
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Full-spectrum solar power? You heard it here first...
http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/MSD-full-spectrum-solar-cell.html

BERKELEY, CA — Researchers in the Materials Sciences Division (MSD) of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, working with crystal-growing teams at Cornell University and Japan's Ritsumeikan University, have learned that the band gap of the semiconductor indium nitride is not 2 electron volts (2 eV) as previously thought, but instead is a much lower 0.7 eV.

The serendipitous discovery means that a single system of alloys incorporating indium, gallium, and nitrogen can convert virtually the full spectrum of sunlight -- from the near infrared to the far ultraviolet -- to electrical current.


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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:09 AM
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1. wow, this sounds good?
nt
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:34 AM
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2. A real possibility of close to 70% efficient solar panels?
And made from a low cost material? Sign me up!
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AbsolutMauser Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:39 AM
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3. What this means...
So, if I understand the article, this means we might eventually be able to construct cheap solar panels that roughly double energy production for the same surface area, correct?

I suppose that means the use of solar panels on homes and other buildings may become a much more affordable and effective means of reducing power consumption from other sources. I guess the question ultimately becomes, is the cost of installing and maintaining solar cells lower than the amount of money saved on power from other sources?

~AbM
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TO Kid Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:17 PM
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12. Depends on location
In Canada a solar/wind installation costs a bit under $10/watt (including panels, turbine, batteries and invertors). If you're more than a couple of hundred metres from the nearest hydro pole, that compares favourably with the cost of connecting to the grid.
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:51 PM
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13. Welcome to DU, TO Kid!!
jarab - DU moderator
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:24 AM
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4. Now the oil industry can buy the rights and shit-can it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:15 AM
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:12 PM
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8. Sorry about the cynicism. I guess I'm feeling a little oppressed lately
by the * admin and its corporate abettors.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:33 AM
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10. Is there a way to keep big oil from "shit-canning it"?
There have been rumors since that last oil crisis in the 70's that the oil industry was keeping one renewable technology or another under wraps.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:03 PM
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6. This is exceedingly cool. Thanx for the report. n/t
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:12 PM
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7. Wow! This could be HUGE!
If my calculations are correct, this means that we could convert wavelengths as large as 1800 nanometers -- well in excess of the red end of the visible spectrum, which is around 700 nanometers!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:47 PM
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9. Hope springs eternal
Fan-freaking-tastic! :D

Thanks for posting this!!!!
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evworldeditor Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 01:39 PM
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11. LBL web posting is 18 months old...
Does anyone have any current information on this? How's this compare to dye sensitive solar cell technology?

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http://www.evworld.com
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Sufi Marmot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:08 AM
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14. So how much indium is there?
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 03:13 AM by Sufi Marmot
Is there enough indium around to make it feasible for this technology to be widespread?

Actually, Instead of being lazy and I'll answer my own question:

From Wikipedia:
Indium is produced mainly from residues generated during zinc ore processing but is also found in iron, lead, and copper ores. The amount of indium consumed is largely a function of worldwide LCD production. Increased manufacturing efficiency and recycling (especially in Japan) maintain a balance between demand and supply. The average indium price for 2000 was US$188 per kilogram

Up until 1924, there was only about a gram of isolated indium on the planet. The Earth is estimated to contain about 0.1 ppm of indium which means it is about as abundant as silver. Canada is a leading producer of indium, producing more than 1,000,000 troy ounces (31,100 kg) in 1997.
Sweet - way to go Canada! Glad to see that this isn't another rare metal that the Congolese will be murdering themselves over.

-SM

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