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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:04 AM
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Is the blame for the war shifting to the CIA once and for all, now?
I just don't know what to say anymore. Karl Rove's got my head spinning!


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq_weapons_040126031815


<"I don't think they exist," David Kay said Sunday. "The fact that we found so far the weapons do not exist — we've got to deal with that difference and understand why."

Kay's remarks on National Public Radio reignited criticism from Democrats, who ignored his cautions that the failure to find weapons of mass destruction was "not a political issue."

"It's an issue of the capabilities of one's intelligence service to collect valid, truthful information," Kay said. Asked whether President Bush owed the nation an explanation for the gap between his warnings and Kay's findings, Kay said: "I actually think the intelligence community owes the president, rather than the president owing the American people.">
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:06 AM
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1. Rove got to him first
Suskind's book "The Price of Loyalty" debunks this myth.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:14 AM
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2. Of course they are going to blame the CIA! I have yet to see this
administration take responsibility! After 3 years they are still blaming Clinton. They like to point the finger away from the WH, it is part of their MO.

I am sure David Kay was warned and I am sure he would like to keep his name in tact. For the time being anyway.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:15 AM
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3. It had better not!!
This is absolutely RIDICULOUS! The PRESIDENT, not the CIA, is the only person in the country who can make the decision to invade another country! Thus, Bush, and only Bush, can be ultimately held accountable. As it was with Nixon and Clinton, it is today with Bush. There is no such thing as plausible deniability. The only problem with our intelligence community is one Dick Cheney breathing down the necks of the people who are supposed to give us the truth instead of Cheney insisting they drum up evidence of WMDs.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:41 AM
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8. um
the founding fathers gave CONGRESS that power to declare war. unfortunately the news media wants the president to have that power so they only have to follow 1 man.

i hope the CIA know what their duty is now. THEY MUST TAKE GEORGE DOWN.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 01:40 PM
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10. Actually...
You may not have noticed, but we've fought many many wars without Congress officially declaring.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:17 AM
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4. Kerry saying "we were misled" really cracks me up
as if he didn't know we were invading Iraq for anything other than a desire to control Iraqi oil...
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:20 AM
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5. The big questions is this:
Will the CIA stand still for "taking the fall"?

I personally doubt it. There have been so many threads here about how the CIA is filled with professionals who take pride in their work and intensely dislike the way this administration has used them to further their own right-wing agenda. Further, there have been many, many threads suggesting that the CIA and the executive branch are literally at war with one another.

In short, I doubt if the CIA will quietly sit back and take a pounding for this debacle. I suspect they'll fight back and in a battle between Rove and the professionals at CIA, my money is on the CIA.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:33 AM
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6. I wonder how Papa Bush feels about his agency taking the blame
he doesn't like to see "the Company" take so much heat.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 11:29 AM
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9. Two thoughts on that:
First, he's probably angered by the very thought of "his" CIA taking the rap, but

If it meant selling his very soul, he'd do anything to keep the dynasty in power.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:36 AM
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7. So, does this mean that it was the FBI's fault for WACO and not
Janet Reno's?

Why are Republicans so much better at passing the blame on to others? Maybe it's because they've had years of experience in the boardrooms.
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