Do they already have Osama?

[reprehensor]

Well, do they?

The Inevitable Capture of Osama bin Laden
http://www.livingstonemusic.net/capturebinladen.htm

Is there a possible parallel between the capture of the ex-President of Iraq, Saddam Hussein in December 2003 and the seemingly impending capture of Al Qaeda figurehead, Osama bin Laden sometime in 2004?

The US bragged confidently of capturing Saddam Hussein a few weeks before it actually happened. This led to the conspiracy theorists claiming that at the time of the now famous announcement by US administrator Paul Bremer to journalists in Baghdad (when he said, "Ladies and gentlemen, we got him...."), that they already had Saddam in captivity, and were waiting for the right time to use this major scoop as marketing weaponry for George W Bush in the 2004 Presidential Election race.

Remember those suspect pictures of the US soldiers removing the cover of Saddam's foxhole hide-out, with the fresh dates on the trees and the dried meat hanging up for curing in the middle of December?

On August 15th 2003, Colonel James Hickey, commander of the 1st Brigade of the 4th Infantry Division stated, "We're working on a lot of interesting information right now and have good reason to believe he's still in this area..."
"He's running out of space and he's running out of support. We're going to get him and it's going to be sooner rather than later... Watch this space."
Most telling, in an interview in December 2003, Republican US Representative. Ray LaHood claimed, "We're this close (to catching Saddam)." A reporter asked him, "Do you know something we don't?" LaHood responded, "Yes, I do."
Saddam Hussein was arrested that same month.

At the time of writing this, the US administration are hinting that Osama bin Laden is nearing capture in the same fashion to how they confidently predicted the arrest of Saddam Hussein.
`We have a variety of intelligence and we're sure we're going to catch Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar this year,' said US military spokesman Lt.Col.Bryan Hilferty to the world's media in January 2004. "We've learned lessons from Iraq and we're getting improved intelligence from the Afghan people."

More at link.

[fearnobush]

1. The whole operation will be kept secret

<snip>

And what if bin Laden decides not to follow the script? According to sources close to the Pakistani newspaper Khabrain, bin Laden has made his seven bodyguards take an oath to kill him in the event that he is in any danger of being arrested. He will try to blow himself up. Western diplomatic sources, on the other hand, prefer to insist that if bin Laden is arrested according to the current Pentagon plan, the whole operation will be kept secret - to be disclosed only a few weeks or days before the American presidential election in November. <MORE> <http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FB26Ag02.html >

[number6]

2. which one ???

;) Osama A or Osama B

[fearnobush]

3. B

A is still their buddy.

[Darranar]

4. Somewhere between #2 and #3...

I think they have a general idea, but lack the knowledge to immediately seize him. What's stopping them from pursuing him at this point is probably both a wish to maximize the political significance of his capture and to avoid angering the Islamist elements in Pakistan. Brutal dictators like Musharraf must be supported, after all.

[Syncronaut Seven]

5. OBL's dead man

He was selected for the job of scapegoat because he was dying. That's why all his family was visiting him in the hospital.

They may have him on ice somewhere, but I'm fairly convinced he's been dead for some time now.

The case of the pre-deceased martyr.

[Gimel]

6. A rumor

I think it was a hoax, a rumor. No OBL capture yet. He escaped into the background again.

[PATRICK]

7. Something is going on and a lot of

wishful thinking. Saddam I think they were closing in on for months as they had been saying. They had probably missed his hidey hole several times when it would have been politically beneficial for Bush to have him. But those moments passed and the press did not put any egg on the faces of those promising imminent capture. So if they have a general idea now it may be the same pattern. They MIGHT be able to get him or get frustrated even until after November for one reason or another.

However, it is also likely that Osama is dead. Hussein had some trouble early on erasing the reports of his own demise but Osama has had years and all we get are these obtuse barely analyzed tapes that never clearly prove that they show a contemporaneous Osama- in fact quite the opposite despite a few arcane improvements over the years. The "capture" would probably be of a son or other Bin Laden voice impersonator substitute replete with enough DNA to scrape off the cavern walls to add to the thin legend the press has supported over the years. Considering Bush's present credibility, the ballyhooed moment for this charade has passed already but it looks as if the operation- if not bungled too- will go ahead.

a) Osama dead, no substitute or partial ID acceptable
b) Osama alive and obliterates himself- same result
c) Whatever Pakistan gets it will rile the activists against the shaky government and prove an enormous danger to the US in order to reelect our criminal fraud.
d)how many American forces or officials in the know will support this monstrosity for the Man?
e)the Bushies are scared about whatever might happen one way or the other in any event- which is why is has to happen quickly just before the election so no one can raise a single question in our dumb media. Then later the fog and uncertainty could be shrugged off.

I hope all their plans to remain in power are this bad, but I wish people would be exposing them intelligently with some more whistleblowers to throw themselves under the wheels. Instead the groundwork for this timely "capture" is relatively unchallenged in the mainstream.

[mac2]

8. Whistle Blowers already have .......

and risked their career saying it. Scot Ritter, O Neill, FBI agents being the most visible. Even Generals in the Pentagon.

The public is silenced by the media and government.

[mac2]

9. I voted other...

He's part of the "dog and pony Bush show".