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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 03:56 PM
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Poll question: Name that "assault rifle"
So tell me.... is this gun legal or is it an "assault weapon"????

I put numbers next to the pictures and numbers next to the choices, it cant be that hard to figure out.

1.)

2.)

3.)

4.)
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 03:59 PM
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1. 1a, I can only vote for one gun in your poll, and then I can't vote again.
You better do each one in it's own poll.

Keep em coming

AWB
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:04 PM
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2. You cant vote more than once?
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:06 PM
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3. Nope, I voted on #1 and wasn't allowed to vote on any of the others
:(
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:14 PM
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4. A Stereotypical Gun Lover's Resonses
1 - Laverne

2 - Rhonda

3 - Maria

4 - Raquel

:-)
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:46 PM
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9. Now CO don't leave out the female gun owners
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:29 PM
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11. Anti-rights typical responses
1) Ickey!
2) Yikes!
3) scarey!!!
4) MUST BE BANNED! I don't want one, nobody else ought to have one! People could do all sorts of things with that! Oh My, the carnage!

:(
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:20 PM
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hueyfreeman Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:24 PM
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6. All are legal. Weather pre or post ban
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 04:26 PM by hueyfreeman
All the above weapons are legal to own. The first three look like post ban weapons ( no bayonet lugs and other differences)so they are legal.
If they are pre ban weapons then they are still legal to own.
The 4th appears to be a class 3 weapon and is legal to own providing you have a class three license and have paid the approaite fees.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:41 PM
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7. It's a trick question
there is no such thing as an assault weapon. The NRA told me so.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:45 PM
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8. Can you put sarcasm aside for a moment and answer a serious question?
Please give YOUR personal definition of "assault weapon".
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:23 PM
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10. ...crickets chirping...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:47 AM
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17. There's those crickets again...
Guess when you start from a rotten position, as the RKBA crowd does, you must expect insect infestation...
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:29 AM
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19. I said it in the Paranoia Runs Deep thread
Edited on Fri Sep-19-03 09:32 AM by slackmaster
And I'm going to say it again:

Look at the responses in another threads here where contributors were challenged to identify or define "assault weapons". No gun ban enthusiast has made a serious effort to answer the questions, rather they try to hide their ignorance behind trite jokes or mantras like "Mary Rosh! Mary Rosh!" or "the corrupt gun industry".

Gun ban enthusiasts still haven't gotten a clue. By choosing to remain ignorant they doom themselves to being unable to address the problem of criminal misuse of firearms. They misdirect their attention to the object they are afraid of rather than the real problem, which is human behavior.

In their arrogance they write stupid, misguided, ineffective laws again and again. Just look at how much bandwidth the California state legislature has wasted over the years trying to ban weapons that look scary but aren't even the ones favored by criminals. Now they are trying to micromanage safety features in handguns, directing their attention to the 1s and 10s that accidental shootings represent rather than the hundreds and thousands of crimes committed by KNOWN violent criminals, repeat offenders who are too often set free by a revolving-door justice system.

Another violent recidivist returned to streets

September 18, 2003

What the state did not do, Mark Anthony Jensen did himself: get him off the streets. After a lifetime of serious crimes and out of prison for exactly a week, Jensen killed himself on Monday.

That's unfortunate. More unfortunate, he apparently killed two other people before shooting himself, bringing to four the number of criminal deaths in which he had a hand.

So why was Mark Anthony Jensen, 40, on the street this week?...


(For full text of copyrighted editorial please see http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/op-ed/editorial1/20030918-9999_mz1ed18top.html )

Meanwhile the level of gun-related crimes in California rises and falls with the economy like it always has. To my friends and acquaintences who think banning guns will solve problems - Wake up and smell the coffee. If you don't know jack shit about firearms you are not competent to write a sensible gun law. Don't rely on guesswork and propaganda. The real information is easy to get if you will only shut up and listen for once instead of spewing childish insults, bogus statistics, and irrelevant comparisons to other countries.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:40 AM
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20. And we all laughed our asses off there too....
"By choosing to remain ignorant they doom themselves to being unable to address the problem of criminal misuse of firearms. "
Hahahahahahahahahahaha......
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:26 PM
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22. thus proving slacks point.
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:14 PM
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12. no one has answered correct yet
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:31 PM
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13. Jeez!
If you want to defend yourself, can't you do it without drilling 100's of rounds into the burglar/assasins corpse?
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:34 PM
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14. I dont get the question.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:40 PM
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15. Yes, you can do it with about 35 rounds provided by many assualt weapons..
100 would be overkill...IMHO
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Java Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 02:49 AM
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16. The Answer my friend...
1.) It is NOT an Assault Weapon (as defined by Law) because it is a Domestic produced rifle which lacks an additional distinguishing feature which would qualify it as an Assault Weapon.
IF it had a Bayonet Lug, or a Flash Hider (Suppressor) then it would be an Assault Weapon


2.) this may or may not be an Assault Weapon depending upon whether or not the rifle was manufactured in the USA or has enough American made parts to allow it to have a pistol grip. If so..then it is NOT an Assault Weapon, on the other hand if the Weapon has been imported and does NOT have enough American made parts then it would be an Assault Weapon as defined by Law.

3.) Ditto (see (2.))

4.) An Assualt Weapon. It is a Semi Automatic Pistol in which the Magazine well is not contained in the pistol grip.
But it doesn't have a Barrel Shroud....

Hmmmm...not really sure about this one..

Note..Assualt Weapons are DIFFERENT than Assault Rifles. An Assault Rifle MUST be capable of Select fire between Semi Automatic fire and Burst and/or Full Auto fire (according to the Department of Defense) AND...it MUST fire an INTERMEDIATE powered Cartridge to qualify as an Assault Rifle.

IF it fires a Full Powered Cartridge and is NOT capable of Select fire then it is a Battle Rifle, otherwise it is a Machine Gun.

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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:25 AM
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18. '...is Blowing In The Wind"
:-)
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:11 PM
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21. No, No, Yes, No.
#1 is a post-ban ar-15 or clone, no muzzle break, no bayonet lug.
#2 is a "neutered" post-ban AK clone (no cutts compensator, no bayonet lug). I'm not sure of the maker, could be either Egyptian or Romanian, based on the wood.
#3 is a pre-ban "assault weapon", based upon the bayonet lug and cutts compensator (see how the muzzle is diagonal?).
#4 is a post-ban AB-10, a neutered Intratec DC-9.

On an aside, provided that #3 was imported before 1989, it's still legal.
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:29 PM
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23. Java was close
If i got a no yes yes no type of answer i could confirm. So far still no takers.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:16 PM
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24. Oh, shoot....
#4 IS an AW, it's got the threaded muzzle. I didn't know that they made a pre-ban without a barrel shroud. My bad. :)
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