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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 10:54 AM Original message |
Three generations of one family found shot to death... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank god the guns were registered! |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. huh? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. What makes you say that? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Keep in mind that our gun homicide rate is over 11,000 people a year. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Would you feeel better if we had fewer gun homicides and more knife homicides |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. doesnt mean we couldnt have |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I know that |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Cowards use guns to kill people... |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I call it the "click and pull" mentality. I know for myself that many people cant knife a person to. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Are you speaking from personal experience? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. They are dishonorable |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Guns kill from a safe distance to the gun carrier... |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Which is why the military uses guns not edged weapons, unless they run out of ammo. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. If you say so |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. If you find yourself in a fair fight |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Calling cops and soldiers cowards on a message board is kind of cowardly too. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
53. you need to clean up your act |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Or maybe people just need to watch what they say. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. But we know how prohibition works. Or doesn't. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. gungrabbers love to think it's working so well in merry old England too n/t |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I was wondering what the excuse would be this time... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Gun registration is not my lame idea |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Anything to avoid the fact that this man shot his entire family, huh Krispos? |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Are you using another source of information? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I know! I know! |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. How do you know who did the shooting? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. it is indeed |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Why speculate on anything? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. you may remember something |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. No problem, you know I adore you. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. I fail to see what you want me to do about it |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Its always the anti-depressants blamed on the school-shooting massacres, not the firearms. n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Yes, also poor parenting skills |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
70. Seen many firearms on drugs have you? n/.t |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. strange |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. Correct, gungrabbers refuse to accept any other possibility n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. Would you feeel better if they had been beaten, stabbed, burned, or poisoned to death? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Since the gun was registered to his wife maybe you don't know what happened. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
18. zanne the gun grabbers don't like these meaningless anecdotes. |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
28. Once again we see that handguns are the bane on this nations families. Once Obama gets in we can.... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. If the party adopted your position as its official stance, |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Your translation is "shut up about gun control" then? They used to that about Gays, but here we are |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. the american people in polls |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #39 |
74. We really should just make a safety class |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. must not have taken an college level stat classes have we? |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 03:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Nope. CNY here. If you hate New York, whats stopping you from leaving? |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 04:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Dental School |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. What issues do you have with living in CNY? |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
83. too many |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. And that would lower deaths due to handguns |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Deleted message |
rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 03:44 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. No nationwide handgun ban but we can improve on the background check system to make sure |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 04:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. ahh i see your knowledge on the gun issue is soundbite deep |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Of course you DO realise that if the NICS firearms checks are improved it will disqualify millions.. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. "1/3 - 1/2 of all Americans have mental heath issues" |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. if there mental health issues |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
73. Improving the background checks won't disqualify millions. |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #73 |
85. Yes, when we get universal health care, HIPPA will no longer apply so we can use data from MD's to |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 06:27 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Huh???? |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #90 |
102. Its called a 72 hour hold or a 5150. Wikipedia it. Its common knowledge.. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. Since you referred us there. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
106. People with depression are not prohibited from possessing a firearm. |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
79. Not all mental health problems are equal |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #79 |
86. I agree with you. I was speaking about psychotics and depressives who kill others before they kill |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #86 |
95. You have years of data that proves antidepressants cause people to commit homicide. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #86 |
96. statistics did me well |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #86 |
99. Anti depressants |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Seems to me most of the time we hear about a depressed shooter they are off their meds. |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Indeed so, but doctors still hand them out like candy, with little follow up.. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Overdiagnosed and Overprescribed |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Black Box Warnings and Loss of Self Control? |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #86 |
104. If that is indeed the case... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
107. "Depressives who kill others before they kill themselves" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. you sound like quite the expert |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Interesting that you ignore the first 2 and a 1/2 paragraphs, |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. attention span of a gnat, or |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-04-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Did you read your own post? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. How do those loopholes work exactly? |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. A: License gun-owners. Pilots, ship captains & truckers cant operate using Prozac-type medications.. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I don't know where you got your information. |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I was NOT speaking to firefighters as they come under a whole nother set of rules then truck drivers |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Back it up then skippy. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Deleted message |
iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. you have time to edit |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Thanks but it says its too late to edit. I will repost a smaller post if its deleted. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 06:35 AM Response to Reply #76 |
91. Contradictory News Stories |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Do you have a link to the laws or rules prohibiting CDL holders from taking anti-depressants? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 06:50 AM Response to Reply #63 |
94. Still waiting on these too. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #63 |
114. The crickets they just keep on a chirping. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
75. Still waiting. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. Deleted message |
bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. wow |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. What part of "two felony counts of lying to Coast Guard officials about his prescription drug use." |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Don't play dumb. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 03:32 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Deleted message |
beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 04:26 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Actually... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 06:38 AM Response to Reply #84 |
92. Did you just call me a liar? Look in the mirror. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 06:47 AM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Let's see that logic at work |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #84 |
97. I would have copied and pasted it |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #84 |
98. interesting |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #84 |
115. Your silence is deafening. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. or heller might get in the way |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Cant wait for Heller myself. The gun-owners are gonna lose big-time on that one! |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. what is your proof |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 03:31 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. DC is a virtual city-state. As such they have a right to pass their own gun laws. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 04:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. so does that mean since it is virtual city/state |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. It would seem that it is you gunners who didnt read Heller, else why all the posts about owning NFA |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. Nice sweeping generalization. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Yep, typical ignorance of the NFA |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. i dont think many us have a problem with the |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
56. Errr...not so fast. |
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ogsbee (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
60. How does this tragedy affect my inalienable right to self defense? |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. They are simply that desperate |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
81. why honeybun, it doesn't! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #81 |
101. You've made that point a lot. |
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