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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:43 PM Original message |
What's wrong with gun suicide? |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Banning guns to stop suicide? |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Nothing's wrong with gun suicide. |
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Genevieve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Yes |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. ... |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. They're messy? |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Suicide, mess and gender |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. Drug overdose is notoriously hard to do. The body tries |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's a shitty thing to leave for others to clean up. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. So go into the woods. |
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Longtooth (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. Nothing more than with ANY suicide. |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. You have two questions here... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Actually some of both. |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I'm not convinced it's an offense against society |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. In that sense it can be wrong, and often is |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. A close relative who was bipolar shot her head off during a bout of depression |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I understand your perspective. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. More than 1% of gun owners have vaginas and ovaries. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Source? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
99. “99% of people who buy guns for self protection . . .are paranoid and cowardly.” You insulted |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Deleted message |
jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. It's a shame you cannot discuss topics without becoming hysterical. I hope you live a very long time |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #104 |
110. my congratulations |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Thanks, but congratulations are unwarranted. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Then I am sorry for your loss |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
44. Interesting... |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
53. The Method Is... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
114. You hate guns, but you seem to loathe gun-owners as well... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
42. how can you be this ... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
74. For decent bystanders who may not see what is going on here. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. beeg whoop, boyo |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
117. Pitiful |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. you are, in context, talking in a fucking circle |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. My life was saved twice because once I had a gun; the other |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
75. Deleted message |
tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
78. In all fairness |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm more concerned about people that don't want to die at the end of a gun. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Huh? |
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Real_Talk (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
55. depends on who's life |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. here's what's arrogant |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Asking a sincere question is not trivializing. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Sorry for your loss. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. discussing them is one thing |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Whether or not suicide is "wrong" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:04 AM Response to Reply #23 |
45. it's the sophomoric self-absorption |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
116. Please remove your full-body blotter and things might dry out (nt) |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
76. No one has trivialized anything here. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
115. I think you are trivializing the problem... |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. The only thing worse than being successful |
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east texas lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
14. Sometimes, when the pain of living becomes exceeds one's capacity to bear that pain... |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. A good friend killed himself with a revolver 10 years ago this week. |
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Longtooth (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. I battled with depression and suicidal thoughts for a number of years. And I |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. But it does make it easier, and likelier. |
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Longtooth (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. No it does not, on either count. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
108. Yeah? |
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Novus Collectus (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. It does not make it more liklier |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #40 |
60. You do not apparently understand depression. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
102. Do you have a car and a hose, prescription meds, a knife, a rope and tall building nearby? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Self delete - |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #106 |
112. No worries. |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
22. It's messy and sometimes people survive, requirng medical |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
39. THAT is true of all suicide attempts unless you fall 100 feet or |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. It has nothing to do with the person.. |
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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Murder-suicides |
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Novus Collectus (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. 9/11 |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:12 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. if |
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Novus Collectus (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:36 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Eh? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. blah de blah de blah |
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Real_Talk (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Don't need a gun |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. and yet ... |
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Real_Talk (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. does it matter? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. ah, you "did see one" |
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Real_Talk (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. The VPC |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. the numbers |
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Real_Talk (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. What do the numbers prove? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I just dunno |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:08 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. fine minds |
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Novus Collectus (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. VPC? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:41 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. blah blah blah? |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Quoting the VPC, |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:41 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. oh, blah blah blah! |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. As usual |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
73. Most people who want to kill themselves will suceed with or |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. one of those self-fulfilling prophecies |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #81 |
118. Do you really think that a gun alone is responsible for a |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. oh yes! absolutely! I believe it 100%!!!1!1! |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. It still blows my mind when I hear stuff like this. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. not nearly as much |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
41. who said??? |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #41 |
59. I am not |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. short times and small numbers |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
61. I think the biggest problem with |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. could I just add |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I believe in my state |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. well, it's still the wrong way, and still a rights violation |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. "Quote one for us" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I'll leave the jig to you |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. blah de blah de blah n/t |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. He is talking about your denial that you stereotype people from the south. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Dave, Dave, Dave |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. iverglas, iverglas, iverglas |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. well then spoonman spoonman spoonman |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. I reckon weuns just ain't as brainy as them northern folk |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I have a theory |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Theory is all you have |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. oh, I have a number of theories |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Total failure |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. good buy? |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Typical |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #98 |
109. Another diverting sub-thread in the gun forum (you came off badly, I fear). |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Wondering... |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. You are missing something |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. man oh man |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. So which one of your relatives made the statement you quoted? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
100. The above post is evidence. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
101. This post. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. I sort of knew what he was trying to say |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #89 |
113. Sub-thread within a sub-thread. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. I guess I am not following |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. it's a principle |
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Dukkha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
107. better than throwing themselves off a building |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
122. No kidding. They might hurt someone else in the fall |
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