California Files Amicus in support of NRA!

[DonP]

Wow, just wow! Who'd a thunk it.

AG Jerry Brown just filed an Amicus brief in favor of incorporation of the 2nd amendment.

"California Supports Incorporation of the Second Amendment:

See the California amicus brief -- signed by Attorney General Jerry Brown, who was a former Governor and is talked about as a possible future candidate for the Governorship as well -- supporting certiorari in NRA v. City of Chicago. The brief expresses support for a good deal of gun regulation, but says:

"The petitions in these cases should be granted to provide needed guidance on the scope of the States’ ability to reasonably regulate firearms while extending to the states Heller’s core Second-Amendment holding that government cannot deny citizens the right to possess handguns in their homes."

"Thirty-three other states also filed an amicus brief supporting incorporation, though they weren't the surprise that California's brief was -- 31 of them filed an amicus brief in Heller that also endorsed incorporation (footnote 6). The two new additions are Maine and North Carolina. One of the states that joined both of the multistate briefs, Minnesota, is one of the six states that doesn't have a right to bear arms provision in the state constitution; California is another."

Maybe CA and its cities are getting tired of writing big checks to the NRA legal team and want some Federal Guidance to hide behind?

[Statistical]

1. Now that is surprising. AG file briefs in support of civil rights all the time but CA? Wow. n/t

[villager]

2. Not an actual news item, of course, but speculation on rightwing gun websites. One of the comments

...elucidates what might really be going on:


"The Jerry Brown “California Dreaming” amicus brief is separate because it is a special plea from California to the Supremes, an attempt to get the Supremes to uphold their egregiously ridiculous “Safe Gun Registry.”


http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/07/07/jerry-brown-endorses-incorporation/

[Statistical]

3. Yeah I can see that. they see the writing on the wall.

They knows bans won't pass constitutional scrutiny therefore they want to move what is acceptable as far down the field as possible.

CA = ok bans are not allowed but everything excluding bans are allowed right?

the petitions in these cases should be granted to provide needed guidance on the scope of the States’ ability to reasonably regulate firearms
Our gun registry is cool right?

while extending to the states Heller’s core Second-Amendment holding that government cannot deny citizens the right to possess handguns in their homes.
We don't want to do this but OK fine you twisted our arm. The 2nd is an individual right and blah blah all that RKBA stuff. So handguns in the home are cool (throwing Chicago under the bus, CA has no prohibition on handguns in the home) but safe gun list, mandatory CA only gun testing which increases the cost of firearms, gun registries, ballistic testing, microstamping, owner identified firearms technology, strict and expensive licensing, assault weapon bans, large magazine capacity bans, "may infringe" CCW is all cool right?

[villager]

6. Heaven forfend we should be able to trace guns used in crimes!

The founding fathers sure as hell didn't mean "well regulated" should mean.. "well regulated!"

[eqfan592]

7. Maybe you should do a little research...

...on the topic at hand instead of mouthing off with useless, sarcastic remarks.

[DonP]

8. It's well regulated - as in well equipped and well trained

The contemporary meaning of the phrase, when drafted, meant well prepared and trained. But don't trust me, check with Alan Dershowitz and Lawrence Tribe - those right wingnut law professors.

But, since the world began the day you were born, I don't expect you to know anything about prior usage.

What does a total Chicago gun ban about to be overturned by SCOTUS this fall have to do with tracking crime guns anyway? Is there something that gave you the idea that the NRA, or anyone else, doesn't want the police to be able to track guns used in crimes, or that they can't do that now?

Wow, gun grabbers get really testy when they see their control freak laws being shut down one after the other ... and crime keeps dropping anyway.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

9. Where have you been? We routinely trace guns used in crimes.

[TheWraith]

4. Good, but they still need to be smacked down for their "safe gun" list.

It's graft, plain and simple, requiring manufacturers to fork over a ton of money or else have their products banned, for reasons having nothing to do with safety.

[slackmaster]

5. The effect is graft, the intent was purely political

It certainly has nothing to do with public safety.