Anderson man killed after alleged theft attempt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

An Anderson man shot and killed a 33-year-old Burney man early Sunday after he allegedly caught him trying to steal property from his Tranquil Lane home, investigators said.

Jerry Kirk called 911 about 3:40 a.m. saying he'd just shot a man in his front yard, Shasta County sheriff's Capt. Dave Compomizzo said.

Curtis Evin Ingalls died from his wounds on the property, Compomizzo said. The home sits behind a gate at the end of a quiet street surrounded by walnut orchards and horse pastures.

Compomizzo declined to say how many times Ingalls had been shot with Kirk's handgun or where he had been hit.

http://www.redding.com/news/2009/jul/13/anderson-man-killed-after-alleged-theft-attempt/


I hope the police covers all the bases on this one.

[rwheeler31]

1. We are done with the gun crap for tonight.

People are grieving.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

4. I think there are a few more.

[SteveM]

37. Gun-controllers post vast numbers of slaying reports here...

Why do you think they do that? Knowing the answer to this question may help in explaining why pro-2A folks also make slaying reports.

[Vinnie From Indy]

2. Gee, Fire Medic Dave - Do you like stories about people getting shot?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

3. Just keeping people informed.

:toast:

[tucsonlib]

6. Informed? Give Us A Break.

"Informed" would imply that you're sharing information. That is to say, something useful. Exactly what are we supposed to do with your recent redundant tales? What do you find so compelling about them that you feel the need to share?

Useless information is junk food for the mind. I don't think most of us experience any vicarious satisfaction or self-righteous glee (as you so obviously do) when we read stories such as these.

And lately some your "informative" tales have graduated from the merely depressing to the truly disturbing. When did theft become a capital crime in this country?

Go ahead and keep posting all the news items you can dig up where having a gun handy saved some innocent life. Like we didn't know that ever happens. But don't insult the rest of us with your "just keeping people informed" bullshit.

And you can't get all bent out of shape when the other side post stories in which innocent lives might have been spared had there not been a gun handy. They're just trying to keep people "informed", too.

[eqfan592]

11. You just think it's bullshit...

...becuase he's putting stories out there that go counter to your narrow world view when it comes to firearms. What's funny to me is you're bitching about him and his stories just as you're saying he can't bitch about other peoples stories.

[iverglas]

16. you're just talking out of your ass

But that aside -- does shooting someone who is (allegedly) in the process of stealing property, not inside a dwelling or other premises, fit neatly into YOUR world view?

Do tell us all about it.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

12. All I am doing is sharing information, you just don't like it. Your problem not mine.

I don't get all bent out of shape when people post other stories about gun crime, that's information that needs to be shared also.

David

[rrneck]

15. Best post I've read in weeks. nt

[SteveM]

38. Please be just as righteous when a gun-prohi posts there s- stuff.

BTW, I'm not sure by what you mean when you say "...innocent lives might have been spared had there not been a gun handy."

[Hoopla Phil]

8. Thank you. It is important information and I appreciate your efforts.

[proteus_lives]

9. You do a good job of it.

:fistbump:

[sharesunited]

5. He likes bad guys being shot by innocent would-be victims.

But he must be careful to avoid stories where the bad guy had a gun because those aren't very helpful at all.

[E-Mag]

7. You must not read the links

There is at least one post on this very page currently 3 posts down from this one where the intruder had a gun.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x239287

[proteus_lives]

10. Don't read the stories do you?

FMD has posted plenty of stories were the criminals were armed. What you don't like is that people defend themselves with a tool you consider "bad."

[sharesunited]

14. Should I have used the sarcasm symbol? Armed perps were simply exercising their RKBA.

Any story in which the perp uses a firearm makes the case AGAINST allowing proliferation and access.

It underscores the farce of putting forward the problem itself as somehow being its own solution.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

17. Actually it only reinforces the need for the law abiding to have firearms.

[sharesunited]

18. Only in a society where gun proliferation is tolerated instead of a scourge to be stamped out.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

19. Or in a society that values the safety of it's citizens and realizes the cops are incapable...

of providing that protection.

David

[sharesunited]

20. Two cops shot yesterday in Baltimore in a domestic dispute call. Bless them, they were there.

More guns don't make protecting life an easier job for them.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

21. Thoughts and prayers to the cops and their families.

Their job is to solve crimes after they occur and intercede if they find a crime in progress. They have no obligation to protect you from crime though.

[sharesunited]

22. Fewer guns and more difficult access translate into less crime to protect you from.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

23. I'm all for keeping firearms from criminals.

Increasing the penalty for felons in possession of a firearm to 10 years to be served consecutively day for day with any other sentence would be a good start. Opening the NICS to private sellers would also be a great start.

David

[sharesunited]

24. How about curtailing the production and retail sale of new weapons and ammo?

Your current holdings would become so much more valuable!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

25. Wouldn't really affect me, it would never pass Congress though. Let's be realistic.

I reload my own ammo. Our new President has done plenty for the value of my firearms.

[Katya Mullethov]

26. A dose of reality would work wonders

Let's take this cat camping in East St Louis .

[sharesunited]

34. East St. Louis? Where so many guns are? Hmmmm?

Guns are the answer to the gun problem.

That is what the NRA has done to your mind.

[Katya Mullethov]

36. We arent taking any guns

Perhaps another member can suggest a more suitable locale ?

We can pitch a couple tents , and build a little circle of busted bricks with a coffee pot hangling over it . Aaaahhh the stories we'll tell around that fire ! I am pretty certain that after a couple of days , we will not only be the best of friends , but you will be giving the blessed numbers on beer bottle and boot crime another look .

I understand that you will be convulsing feverishly , looking for an orifice within which to thrust a muzzle , so I will be frank . The really poor thieves and thugs ...... they use their feet a lot .

[Katya Mullethov]

41. Figure it all out yet ?

They are hard lessons , and sometimes need to be stomped in .
Intimate knowledge of such things is dearly purchased .


Your primary weapon is between your ears .

Some people have really rusty weapons , and they absolutely DO NOT give a fuck , period .

And lastly , sometimes you really need to consider just whom you might actually be typing at .

I will not collect yor mana this trip , but I will take the mullet for my lodgepole .

[SteveM]

39. The obligation to protect is with the citizen -- Baltimore makes it difficult (nt)

[Taitertots]

27. Neither do the Fourth, Fifth, or Sixth Amendments

Lets get rid of all of them to make the cop's job easier.

[eqfan592]

28. Don't forget the 9th!

I'm sure that the 9th has been used to defend several civil liberties that, without them, would make the jobs of polices officers MUCH easier!! That is, after all, what's most important!

[Taitertots]

29. We better just throw them all out....

Since police officer's ease is the metric by which we measure our legal system.

[sharesunited]

31. The question was really whether police were capable of protecting.

Gun and ammo proliferation makes that goal more difficult to achieve.

[Taitertots]

32. So do the 4th, 5th, 6th, 9th

The bill of rights in general makes the goals of the police more difficult.

[sharesunited]

33. The 2nd seeks to do so by causing death and bodily injury.

The referee in me says that's out of bounds.

[Taitertots]

35. The referee in me says...

That we should respect the bill of rights as a whole. As opposed to cherry picking whatever you want to apply at any given moment.


The second amendment causes death, like the first causes you to yell fire in a theater.

[sharesunited]

30. You assert those in a court of law, not from the muzzle of a gun.

Quite an important distinction, I would maintain.

[eqfan592]

40. Maintain it all you want...

...it doesn't make it true.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

13. You and others post those stories. I don't need to cover them.