Ya gotta be kidding me. Really. Ya gotta be fuckin' kidding me.

[IntravenousDemilo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cFSgVGw0I

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

1. Goes good with Ambien

[MrCoffee]

2. No shit...

$39.95 PLUS shipping and handling? Who do they think I am, Mr. Moneybags???

[NYC_SKP]

5. I dunno, it looks pretty sturdy. I'm sure it would take a few hours to weld one up...

And paint it, and put rubber protector stuff on the hook parts.

I say it's priced just right!

:P

[JuniperLea]

3. Paranoia strikes deep...

Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away...

[SteveM]

23. Personal experience? Remember: "We're finally on our own." (nt)

[WeDidIt]

4. Not a bad idea

Quick access to a shotgun in the middle of the night is not a bad thing.

[baldguy]

9. How do you lock it?

Because, as you know, all responsible gun owners store their firearms in a manner so as to make them inaccessible to unauthorized persons.

Like children.

Seems to me that this contraption sets the trigger just low enough to allow a toddler to pull it.

[eqfan592]

10. There's a good answer to that.

Keep the firearm stored during the day, and use the rack at night if you're so inclined.

[slackmaster]

12. I guess baldguy didn't watch the whole video

:rofl:

[baldguy]

14. There's no locking mechanism either spoken of or indicated on the video.

My question stands.

[slackmaster]

16. Why should it have one?

The manufacturer specifically says the product is not intended for households with children.

Anyone who already owns a gun either already has a locking device and uses it, or not. This gadget won't make any difference.

My shotguns are locked up right now.

[PavePusher]

19. Intelligent hominids can see at least 3 different ways to lock this gun.

I'll leave it as an exercise for the student.

Don't play stupid, it's not pretty.

[Pavulon]

15. No kiddies here..

a locked weapon for defense is like taking a steamy dump right out of the shower. Pretty fuckin stupid.

[spin]

31. At the end of the video it says, "the Backup is not designed for use in homes with children"...

When I lived in Tampa without any children in the house, I had loaded firearms in the house. I unloaded them and stored them when my grand kids were in the house.

[rd_kent]

34. Oh noes! What about the CHILDREN????

UH, how about taking some personal responsibility and make sure your kids dont get near it? Or put it away when your not in bed?

[ManiacJoe]

38. You must have missed the part in the ad

where they say that this method of storage is not safe for those with children or other unauthorized users around.

[rl6214]

41. Not everyone has children around

You always ASSume too much.

[gorfle]

44. Your front door deadbolt.

How do you lock it?

With your front door deadbolt.

Gun safes are great, and I highly recommend them in homes with children.

But your typical California Department of Justice-rated safe is not going to take any more effort or time to break into than the front door of your home.

[tburnsten]

47. In all my time running around on shooting forums

and reading various books on shooting, I can't remember a single person ever keeping their shotgun with a shell in the chamber, or reccomending that anyone do so. Most shotguns are not made to be drop-safe, so it's not a good idea to keep the chamber loaded. Show me a toddler with the motor skills, upper body strength, hand size, and wingspan to rack the slide on a shotgun and get it into firing condition.

[quinnox]

6. Next up , a shower/bath attachment

Because you never know when you might need a shotgun in reach.

[Katya Mullethov]

8. Gotcha covered

So I was takiing a shower , eating a chocolate chip coookie when.....

[jeepnstein]

18. I just knew somebody would bring that up.

Not that I ever heard of someone taking a shower with a FAL while eating a cookie, you understand.

[Euromutt]

25. Not while eating a cookie, no

But I know quite a few guys who have taken their FALs into the shower. Admittedly, the purpose of the exercise was to get the weapon clean (you have to oil it immediately afterward, you understand), not in case the Sovs invaded while the person was in the shower.

[Katya Mullethov]

39. This is the post he was refering to

And you are right , it works really well on black powder !

[tburnsten]

48. Oh my... New background!

But that is definitely a CETME/G3 pattern rifle, not a FAL.

[eqfan592]

7. Wow, get over yourself. (nt)

[slackmaster]

11. That looks like a good idea, but I'd rather spend an hour making my own

Rather than pay $40 plus S&H for something that might not work for me.

[TPaine7]

13. The only thing wrong with that is that I didn't invent it.

What's the problem?

[rrneck]

17. One leg of that gadget

with the right tab and you could hang a sidearm holster on it.

[Hoopla Phil]

20. If that had an electronic trigger lock/cover on it I'd be interested.

But with a child in the house I keep everything locked up. I really like the "gun vault" electronic handgun safe I keep on the nightstand. If this was configured more like that for a long gun I would be very interested in it.

[burrfoot]

32. You know,

it probably wouldn't be all that challenging to attach an electronic safe to this. I imagine it being hinged at the bottom, with a bio-scan pad on top. Press thumb to pad, "top" and "side" of safe fall open to the side and gun is free to be lifted out.

The box could cover the entire trigger/safety/chamber area of the gun.

Anybody got a pistol-sized bio-vault we can hack up to see if this works? :evilgrin:


P.S. I swear to god if anyone steals this idea and makes millions I'm suing....pressing "print screen" in three....two...one....

:toast:

[proteus_lives]

21. My dad has something similar.

He has had it for years. His is homemade.

Never had a problem with it even when my siblings and I were young. Why? Because we were instructed on firearms safety and ethics.

[SteveM]

22. You probably won't engage, but consider the National Safety Council...

which says that firearms-related accidental fatalities are at record lows. Further, those accidents involving youths CONTINUE to decline. This during a 10-year period (1995-2005) in which gun ownership by civilians went up from 190,000,000 to some 290,000,000 (estimates for current ownership are around 330,000,000). This decline in accidental deaths may be explained by proper storage and locking of weapons AND proper instruction of children in the safe handling of weapons.

Don't get so upset about gadgetry. And what it might do.

[rd_kent]

35. You need to stop that BS right now!

Using facts to show that most gun owners are responsible does NOT fly around here in the gungeon. You must appeal to emotions and use hyperbole. Got it?

[SteveM]

40. Yassa, boss!

[armueller2001]

24. Yes, they are kidding you.

You're right. It's much better to be killed or raped while fumbling with a safe combination then to be prepared for an emergency.

[oneshooter]

26. My M97 Winchester sits in the corner by the bed

Ready to use with a full mag and the 17" bayonett hanging beside it. During the day it, and the wifes night guns, go back into the safe.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

[PavePusher]

27. Mossberg 590 with ghost ring sights and bayonet.

There's something about an 8+1+4 shotgun with a big knife on the business end that really says: "You Have Picked The Wrong House. Welcome to FAIL."

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

28. Glock 19 & silencer with a 31 round mag on the nightstand.

During the day, it gets the standard capacity 15 round mag and gets carried in my holster.
Ever shoot a gun in a quiet dark room?... yeah, silencers for the win.

I like the feel of a pistol over a shotgun. More maneuverable and keeps one hand free.
Plus my only shotgun is a 28" over/under... probably only good if ducks or pheasants invaded my house.
If I had a serbu shorty ($$$+NFA), I'd probably use that - but I can't justify $800+ for that currently.

[PavePusher]

29. Oh, I have a 1911 and a few spare mags as well.

I like options, I do...

[oneshooter]

30. My SIG 220 on my side and Loving Wife has her Colt Commander. N/T

[Xela]

42. Here's to girls and their 1911s....

My wife loves her 1911 in .45 ACP. She has a Goverment model however.

Xela

[Euromutt]

33. That's one of the few downsides of living in Washington state

You can legally own a suppressor here, but it's a gross misdemeanor to actually use it for its intended purpose. (The bittersweet part is that the laws contains no exemption for law enforcement, so technically, the various SWAT and SRT units in the state frequently violate the law, but to my chagrin the state A-G has made it policy not to prosecute those offenses.) A bill was introduced last January that would have exempted any suppressor "legally registered and possessed in compliance with federal law," but it appears to have died in committee.

I have three year-old toddling around, so I don't leave any firearms unsecured. I have a "Titan Gun Vault" quick-access lock box (with a Simplex push-button lock) bolted to my bed, containing a S&W M&P40 full-size, with an extended magazine (19+1 rounds), Crimson Trace laser grips, night sights and an Insight M3 light. It normally stays in the lockbox; for CCW, I have an M&P40c, also with CTC grips.

I have Benelli Supernova and an AR carbine both set up for defensive use, but I really intend them for larger-scale crises, e.g. natural disasters complete with loss of power, possible partial breakdown of the social order, and overburdened law enforcement.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

36. There's no way would ever know you used your suppresser in WA if you did.

If you live really close to the border, you could visit ranges outside of WA.
But if you ever had to use in your home who would know?

[tburnsten]

49. That's terrible advice

Why advocate someone break state law? It's just a bad idea, though the law there is retarded.

[SteveM]

45. I understand some European countries REQUIRE hunters to use silencers...

The thinking is that the noise from a high-powered gun not silenced would be disturbing to other animals and the immediate ecosystem. Here, where hunting is quite widespread, and hunting lands can be vast, silencers are banned because (I suppose) their quite reports could not be detected by game wardens. This partially explains why .22s and other rim fires are not allowed for deer hunting.

[Tejas]

37. So, it's all unicorns and rainbows in Canada eh?

By the way, thanks for bringing your General-Discussion-profanity to the Gungeon, the female readers here appreciate it greatly. :sarcasm:

[Xela]

43. I think it's a great idea...

I would consider it as a backup if I had a shotgun (currently have an 7+1 1911 under the bed).

One thing however, I would hate to bump against the hooks by accident. Ouch.

Xela

[petronius]

46. Sure looks complicated. Good thing they demonstrated its operation

a dozen-plus times... :)