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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:29 PM Original message |
Why NOT have firearm education in school? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hmm...let me get this straight. Not educating kids on guns causes black on black violance? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. It certainly doesn't do anything to prevent black-on-black violence |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Me typing this message doesn't do anything to prevent black on black violance |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Punkin' out so early? (nt) |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. huh? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Showin' a lot of 'tude over a simple posting. (nt) |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I don't like race being used as an argument for teching guns in schools, call me crazy. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. The main topic here isn't "teaching guns in schools" |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Jesus christ, you got me. I meant " teaching firearm safety" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. OK, you're crazy. But I agree that race isn't a good reason to teach it. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Race has been used as an argument for teaching a lot of stuff in school... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. No, your post probably doesn't change the incidence of any kind of violence in any way |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. wtf? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Apparently we dont agree on this. Because I point out how absurd her assertion was |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I'm not entirely sure that spin agrees with her assertion either. The OP asks "Why NOT..." |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. I had a difficult time finding a source that wasn't anti-liberal... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. I see what you mean, at the same time... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. That's not exactly what she said |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. I know what you mean |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Most school districts can't even afford drivers' ed anymore |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. The police used to come in and do it. |
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joecool65 (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Not a bad idea in the broad sense |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. In the Old Days(TM) |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
70. The NRA has such programs already set up. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. There was a brief gun safety lesson in Health and Safety class when I was in high school |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 06:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
84. ride-alongs |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Our comunity recenlty stopped the ride-alongs. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. lol not surprising |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
54. Drivers ed is a long course ... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
69. Teaching firearm safety would be... |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. "the result is black on black crime" |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. It is possible that this legislator has looked at violent crime... |
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DeeCee (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. Logic 101 |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I don't think the number of people.... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. If you only read the news and watch TV, you might be under the impression that a AK-47 |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. I suggest you double-check your assumptions. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. So, you are against educating kids in the use of firearms? (nt) |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
58. Who is advocating giving more guns to gang types in Chicago? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. Way to miss the forest for the trees. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
82. You might need logic 301 |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
87. The Constitution can be amended. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. As for this putting an end to "black on black" crime... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
75. Well I don't think she ever said it would put an end to it |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. Brilliant idea |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You should take a firearms safety class sometime. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. You should also go back and re-read the OP |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Glad you agree with her... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
72. Actually, shotties are making a comeback in a variety of CQ situations. n/t |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. Because it's a personal choice - like religion. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. The manner in which a person drives, sexual activity, and taking drugs or not are personal choices |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. The presumption you are making is that |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. No, that is not correct |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. So did I - well, my school did (girls weren't encouraged to take Shop) |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. I feel strongly that there should be an option to opt out of elective classes |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Then we agree. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. We had a short Home Ec section in my Spanish class in 10th grade |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. Wood Shop, Metal Shop, Home-Ec |
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taurus145 (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. I can't wear short sleeves? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. So, would you support a gun safety course? If not, why not? (nt) |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
80. What about sex, that's a personal choice right? |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
17. Why not? Cost? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. True. Though this might still help that. |
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RussWorld (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
20. Actually, the NRA has a firearm safety program for kids and schools. I believe called |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. Welcome to DU. The Eddie the Eagle program is designed for |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. You know what? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
63. That is really not a bad idea. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
26. I think we should. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. why not have cliff-jumping safety courses in school? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. on further thought |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. Firearm safety education could emphasis tragedy ... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Maybe because the number of gun owners... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. what has the number of gun owners got to do with anything? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Thank you for proving my point. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. read some other threads? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Is there a specific post in that thread you wanted to draw attention to? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
78. So turning kids on to lighters is a bad way to prevent accidental fires? Dead ass wrong again. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
77. So despite the fact that firearms education reduces gun accidents you oppose it. Interesting. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
81. That is one of your less well thought out arguments |
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chandler2 (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
45. The HS where I used to live has a shooting range and I've shot... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
64. A .22 rifle or a good pellet rifle provide excellent training on gun safety. (n/t) |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
48. That is the best approach to gun safety |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
50. Why I started this thread ... |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
67. Ignorance of The Four Rules does NOT contribute to honor killings |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
68. The smartest woman in Chicago. God help her... n/t |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
76. How about a safety class? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
79. Because making them seem forbidden |
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Francis Marion (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-20-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
83. Education is the answer |
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