Some really good info for those of you that want to ban guns

[rd_kent]

Here is what has happened in Austrailia.........

Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent;
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent);
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent as compared with the last one year period when private ownership of a firearm was legal.
(NB: the law-abiding citizens did turn in their personal firearms, the criminal element did not and thus criminals in Australia still possess their guns.)

http://candaceclayton100.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/australian-gun-law-update/

and more info on places that have banned guns....

http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/2009/07/30/gun-control-a-failure-in-australia-uk-canada-protect-americas-2nd-amendment-rights-video/

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[Hoopla Phil]

2. Good points.

[RealityInSeattle]

3. Good info. If you think bigfoot is real. This ancient email has been debunked.

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

Many many many times.

This is complete hogwash, and you look very silly posting things like this.

[rd_kent]

5. Hahaha! Thats not a "debunking"....but thanks for playing.

You link implies that the stats are being misread or misrepresented, but the stats ARE true.

Thanks for playing.

[RealityInSeattle]

6. Good luck on your bigfoot hunt

Maybe you will catch him this time.

[proteus_lives]

4. Thanks for the info.

I hope certain Oz-humping posters see this.

[JonQ]

7. I've said this before:

you can't use reason and facts to argue with someone who cares for neither.

You can post as many charts and studies showing that banning guns does nothing to reduce crimes and they will always come back with "but the children!!!!!!!!!!".

I think at this point the debate serves only entertainment purposes. Those that can be persuaded with reason have been, and either A) no longer oppose the 2nd or B) never did. Those that remain in the grabber pantheon are thoroughly committed and will never relent.