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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:43 PM
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Man says he shot, killed robber after escaping from car
A South Side man says he grabbed a gun from robbers who snatched him off the street and he killed one of them when firing off what he meant to be a warning shot.

"I'm walking to the store minding my own business and a car full of juveniles pull their car to the side," said the 31-year-old man, who asked not to be identified. "A guy gets out pointing a gun at me to get in the car and says we're going to the ATM. There's a bunch of people in there--I'm not going to argue."

Chicago police said they have corroborated details of the man's account with witnesses. One police official said the man won't face any charges. He said he told the man, "You're either lucky or you're crazy."

The incident happened just after 11 p.m. Tuesday near 47th Street and Martin Luther King Drive in the Bronzeville neighborhood.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/12/woman-found-shot-in-bronzeville-alley.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ChicagoBreakingNews+%28Chicago+Breaking+News%29
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:45 PM
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1. Abduction at gunpoint. Guns and ammo emboldened this crime.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:50 PM
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2. Criminals will always have access. The law abiding need a means of protection.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:52 PM
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4. Proliferation of guns and ammo is the problem. More of the same is not the solution.
Edited on Fri Jan-01-10 10:52 PM by sharesunited
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:55 PM
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You get them away from all the criminals then we'll talk.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:58 PM
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9. The longest journey begins with the first step.
Cessation of retail sales of all new guns and ammo.

Turn off the spigot.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:00 PM
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13. The first and last step should be getting them away from criminals.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:06 PM
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14. If they were less available generally, that would be an absolute good.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:08 PM
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15. They should only be less available to criminals.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:11 PM
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16. Unfortunately, trying to pick and choose gives gun control opponents what they hunger for.
Namely, the claim that gun proliferation is the only answer.

Which, of course, is fatal foolishness.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:12 PM
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17. Thus revealing your true goal.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:17 PM
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18. Proliferation or eradication is the choice. I didn't make the world, I just explain it.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:19 PM
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19. How simple minded some people can be.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:32 PM
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20. Such as those who think criminals can be deprived guns when they are so generally available?
When you choose further proliferation as the answer to the gun problem, to me that just lacks common sense.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:48 PM
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23. I think innocent people should be able to defend themselves. Feel free to go the other way.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 12:12 AM
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26. Your posts mainly demonstrate that they need to defend themselves against guns.
That's why I suggested you limit future stories to those where the mischief was not gun enabled or inspired in the first place.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 12:16 AM
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27. They need to be able to defend themselves regardless of the criminals choice of weapons.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 12:30 AM
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28. You only believe that because you think someone is out to get you.
Lighten up dude.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 12:32 AM
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29. As I've said many times I don't carry a firearm and no one is going to break in my house.
At least not without being mentally disabled, extremely drunk or high. Still very unlikely.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:40 AM
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31. I got a new one. The common good can hug my hairy nuts.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 02:21 AM
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32. That sounds like rage against gender inadequacy. Don't feed cliches you oppose.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:03 PM
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35. You are wrong as usual. I won't hold it against you I know you can't control yourself.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 05:00 AM
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33. It will never happen.
Because your brand of authoritarianism leaves a bad taste in most American's mouths.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 10:08 AM
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34. Violates 2A. You FAIL, again. N/T
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:58 PM
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11. Yes, it is the solution.
Violence is not stopped by pacifism, it is stopped by stronger counter-violence. Criminals will always have arms, so I want arms for me to be able to protect myself from criminals.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:51 PM
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3. and by the way the common good can still kiss my nicely shaped ass.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:53 PM
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5. I quoted you and got deleted. Hmmmm. Somebody thought you might be embarrassed?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:54 PM
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6. Yes I found that quite cowardly.
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Ihaterush Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:55 PM
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7. People like this make me sick.
His "warning" shot could have killed a non bad guy.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:56 PM
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8. Warning shots are a horrible idea. Aim center mass and fire multiple times.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:58 PM
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10. Hey Fire medic, are you just posting this stuff because of that idiot
who seems to have nothing else to do but post about errant CCW folks?

Much as I agree with your position, would you both just give us a break for a day? It's really getting old on both sides. Just a day. Really.

Peace
Bud
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:59 PM
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12. You've had many days off lately. I've been in the hospital as has my father.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:37 PM
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21. How you doin' anyway. nt
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:41 PM
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22. +1 I'm really on your side. I just don't want to do it today.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:52 PM
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24. Okay except I tore a muscle in my abdomen throwing up.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:55 PM
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25. Ow! Damn! Take your time healing, no need to push it. nt
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:06 PM
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36. Brrrrrr. Having been in a similar state, my sympathies.
Do try to take it easy.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 12:47 AM
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30. The visuals of this thread look as symmetrical as an ammunition belt (nt)
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