Feds, Cops Attempt to Shut Down Legal Gun Sales in Austin

[biermeister]

Has anyone else seen this?

Feds, Cops Attempt to Shut Down Legal Gun Sales in Austin, Texas; Idea: We Need an Ellis County Gun Show

January 18, 2010 by JoeyGDauben
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
January 18, 2010

The police in Austin, at the behest of the federal Bureau of Alcohol and Firearms, has attempted to shut down legal gun sales. The Texas Gun Shows website has the following posted: “Vendor notice – Austin show only: At the direction of the Austin Police Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms, ONLY LICENSED FFL DEALERS will be allowed to set up and sell firearms at the N. Austin show location.”
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The “notice” posted at Texas Gun Shows. (the image didn't copy over)


FFL is short for “Federal Firearms License.” It is a federal license that enables an individual or a company to engage in a business pertaining to the manufacture of firearms and ammunition or the interstate and intrastate sale of firearms. It does not control gun sales between individuals on the local level.

Texas residents may purchase rifles, shotguns, handguns ammunition, reloading components, or firearms accessories. No permit or registration is required under state law. It is unlawful to knowingly sell, rent, give or offer to sell, rent or give any firearm to a person under 18 years of age, without the written consent of his parent or guardian, but entirely legal for adults to sell firearms.

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www.elliscountyobserver.com/?p=11484

[SteveM]

1. Yep. You have a dupe, here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=283821&mesg_id=283821

[biermeister]

4. thanks- I missed it

[sharesunited]

2. Is this a bad thing?

[Craftsman]

3. So you do not think illegally arresting someone is bad

or it is bad to violate their civil rights?

[sharesunited]

5. Was anyone arrested? I didn't see that part.

[Craftsman]

6. They arrested a guy but did not file charges.

[armueller2001]

7. Nothing like getting arrested

for NOT breaking any laws.

I'd sue the PD for wrongful arrest.

[sharesunited]

8. Was he a federal firearms licensee? Or was he disobeying the requirement that he be one?

[oneshooter]

9. What requirement? n/t

[cowman]

10. Apparntly Shares didn't

read the OP Tx residents who are adults don't need an FFL to sell guns and rifles between themselves

[sharesunited]

12. The ATF wanted Austin to restrict local commerce in guns and ammo, apparently.

[cowman]

13. Which

is against Tx law or don't you read the OP's post

[sharesunited]

14. I appreciate the willingness of the federal government to preempt on this.

It's the direction we ought to be going.

[cowman]

15. So

you want the Feds to Usurp state rights

[sharesunited]

16. As much as possible.

[cowman]

17. Then you sir

are a moron. What else do you want the Feds to have complete control over. Thank god you are a very small minority in this country and you gun grabbers are fast becoming irrelavent

[cowman]

18. I am very

glad that I live in the Great State of Nevada where our 2nd amend. rights are respected. In this state we have the right to open carry, we can carry a weapon in our vehicles fully loaded and concealed as long as it is not on our person or something we would normally carry such as a purse or brief case. So don't come to NV lest you become unduly distressed

[sharesunited]

20. I really can't think of any area of state law which I wouldn't favor being preempted.

I am grateful for federal preemption whenever it is asserted.

Most of this nation's woes throughout its history have been the direct result of so-called state's rights.

[proteus_lives]

19. You get more transparent evey day.

You're going from authoritarian to fascist.

[Katya Mullethov]

21. Oh yeah ,

You and Ben Franklin woulda got along real good . For about 26 seconds .

[sharesunited]

22. Franklin brought up to speed on where his America went wrong might see things my way.

[Katya Mullethov]

25. A little reeducation ?

You could fill him in on all the lastest discoveries as to how the world really works .

[rd_kent]

24. So you appreciate the government ignoring civil rights?

[sharesunited]

28. Engaging in gun commerce is pretty removed from the claim of being a right.

[rd_kent]

33. You're delusional.

[PavePusher]

30. You missed the part...

where it is not against Federal law to do private transactions between eligible persons.

[valhalla]

31. They are also in violation of Federal law as well.

They do not have statutory authority to regulate private sales anywhere.

[rd_kent]

23. See shares, your ignorance triumphs again. There IS NO REQUIREMENT!!!

[Katya Mullethov]

29. They could jack him up for trespassing

If anybody got arrested over this one , that would be the charge .

[krispos42]

11. You don't have to be arrested to have your freedom to act violated. n/t

[GreenStormCloud]

26. Why Ellis County? That is a long way from Austin.

Ellis County, for those not familiar with Texas, is the count on the southern border of Dallas County, which holds Dallas, Texas. Because of the huge population, Dallas County has frequent gun shows. Ellis County doesn't have enough populatin to support a decent gun show and is close enough to Dallas that everybody interested goes there, or to Ft. Worth in Tarrant County.

A gun show in Ellis County would be a financial bust.

[GreenStormCloud]

27. That won't last long. Texas is a gun state.

And the local cops don't have the direct legal authority for that action. They may have pressured the owner of the building into making that requirement, but the cops can't do it directly. If a private person does sell a gun there, the charge would be tresspassing, at worse.

The Feds don't have the authority either. Private sales are legal under Federal law. The Feds would have to prove that the person is making a business of selling guns w/o an FFL. If someone is doing that, then bust his ass.

[Katya Mullethov]

32. If you want the scoop , sans the alarmist poop

You should look to subguns , ARFcom ,TFL,Highroad,or even DU !!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=283821&mesg_id=284645