Looks like it's time for CCW holders to "Meet at Peet's!"

[friendly_iconoclast]

After reading this here at DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=286541&mesg_id=286541

about open-carry activists being hassled while meeting at Peet's Coffee shops in California, and then reading this statement
from a Peet's spokesperson here:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/scavenger/detail?entry_id=56281#ixzz0e2wsUbkh

...Days after the San Ramon confab, a TV station in Sacramento discovered that a local Peet's posted a policy banning customers from openly carrying guns. A company spokesperson confirmed the rule in an email to The Scavenger:

While Peet's Coffee & Tea respects and values all individuals' rights under local, state and federal laws, our policy is not to allow customers carrying firearms in our stores or on our outdoor seating premises unless they are uniformed or identified law enforcement officers....

I propose this for willing CCW holders (I can't join the fun as I do not own a firearm):

At a certain date and time, TBD, concealed weapons owners meet at a local Peet's store that does not have a legally
valid notice prohibiting guns- this must be a legal demonstration. Do not advertise the fact that you are armed.
If asked to leave by management, DO SO- quietly.

I hope to force Peet's into posting their corporate policy about guns in *every* one of their stores.

As I said in the prior thread, I plan to watch the hilarity at the Peet's in Wellesley, Massachusetts.

[provis99]

1. were you one of the guntoters at the Teabagger rallies?

Way to go; intimidate a legitimate business owner by brandishing firearms; you're a real hero.:sarcasm:

[Merchant Marine]

3. You obviously haven't been here very long

CCW = Concealed
Concealed =/ Brandishing

[MichaelHarris]

12. Also

CWP = murderer http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700005762/Teacher-fatally-shot-in-parking-lot.html "She is a concealed weapons permit holder, and her most recent address is in Taylorsville."

[X_Digger]

14. CWP = murderer?

But was she a white extremist? *snort*

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=285630&mesg_id=285630

[rd_kent]

16. Ahh, the irrational, emotional response from someone that cannot deal with his own rage...

Get some help, PROFESSIONAL help.

[PavePusher]

21. What are you trying to imply...

with that mile-wide brush you're swinging?

[Euromutt]

13. Look up what "brandishing" means, at least legally

You'll find that "brandishing" is generally taken to mean having the weapon in your hand, and using it to make menacing gestures. A weapon is not generally not regarded as being brandished if it is merely being carried visibly, e.g. in a holster, scabbard or slung over one's shoulder.

At most, a holstered handgun might be regarded as being "brandished" in a legal sense if it is carried concealed, and the carrier sweeps the cover garment aside to reveal it in the course of a confrontation; or if it is being carried openly, if the carrier places his hand on the grip as if preparing to draw it.

[friendly_iconoclast]

22. The teabaggers with guns were trying to generate an emotional resposnse.

AFAIK, few of these halfwits actually violated the gun laws of whatever locality they were in.

They were free to excercise their rights, just as I am free to declare them a bunch of imbeciles

I just thought they were stupid, not dangerous. However, I did find it somewhat amusing that they elicited in certain
segments of society the exact same response that the Black Panthers used to get when they would go out in public
bearing arms.

Looks like some right-wingers remembered those days, even if some 'progressives' didn't.

[proteus_lives]

Ahh, grabber ignorance.

What thread would be complete without it.

[MichaelHarris]

2. Why

do you hate freedom? Will I have to let you into my house with a gun also?

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[MichaelHarris]

7. no

not at all. I run a business out of my house.

[MichaelHarris]

9. I think it's

really cool you feel the need to resort to name calling when you just got owned. In any event, CWP holders shoot people up sometimes. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700005762/Teacher-fatally-shot-in-parking-lot.html "She is a concealed weapons permit holder, and her most recent address is in Taylorsville."

How's that for journalism sea-boy?

[rd_kent]

18. "you just got owned.." Should we rehash the "white extemist" thread that you started?

Your ass-hattery knows no limits.

[Euromutt]

6. Is your house open to the general public?

C'mon, you do understand that there is a difference between a private dwelling on the one hand, and a commercial establishment that is privately owned but open to the general public on the other? Opening a commercial establishment to the general public doesn't mean that you're therefore also required to let your customers into your house.

And corporations, being legal but not natural persons, don't even have dwellings.

[MichaelHarris]

8. The

business part of my house is open to the public. Next.

[friendly_iconoclast]

25. Well then, if one of your clients has a CCW upon their person, just ask them to leave

Just as I advocated in the OP...

[friendly_iconoclast]

26. Oh, and you *do* have the required signage to keep legal gun owners out, right?

If so, fine. I don't ask any more from you than I would from any other proprietor.

[MichaelHarris]

10. Also

CWP holders shoot people up sometimes, http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700005762/Teacher-fatally-shot-in-parking-lot.html "She is a concealed weapons permit holder, and her most recent address is in Taylorsville."

That had to sting man.

[rd_kent]

19. "That had to sting man" - Hahahahah! You are so childish.

How do you ever expect to be taken seriously?

[proteus_lives]

24. Your meme is failing.

But that's not surprising from you.

[rd_kent]

17. Now you are just being silly!

[Merchant Marine]

5. Quick question...

If everyone is carrying concealed, and nobody tells anyone they're carrying concealed, how will they ever know it happened?

[MichaelHarris]

11. Like yesterday's CWP holder?

Who shot up a school teacher? http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700005762/Teacher-fatally-shot-in-parking-lot.html "She is a concealed weapons permit holder, and her most recent address is in Taylorsville."

Damn that smarts, you should put some ointment on that burn.

[X_Digger]

15. Nice straw man there.. stuff more in the arms, you missed a spot. n/t

[rd_kent]

20. " Damn that smarts, you should put some ointment on that burn" - What are you, in the 5th grade?

Grow up.

[friendly_iconoclast]

23. No matter how often repeated, anecdotes do not become data

You might try a statistics class. It seems your skills are a little lacking in that department.

[Warren Stupidity]

27. what is wrong with you?