Daley already in full hissy fit mode

[Pullo]

“Why can’t I go to the Supreme Court and sit there with a gun and listen to the arguments? If a gun is so important to us on the street or someone’s home, why can’t I go to the Supreme Court and sit there with a gun? I’m not gonna shoot anyone. But, I have a right to that gun,” Daley said, his voice dripping with sarcasm.

“Why can’t I go see my congressman who doesn’t believe in gun laws? Why can’t I carry my gun into congressmen’s offices or go to his home and knock on his door and say, ‘Don’t be worried. I have a gun. You want me to have a gun.’ Why is it they want to be protected by all the federal money ... to protect all the federal bureaucrats, but when it comes to us in the city” there’s no protection?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2082064,us-handgun-chicago-ban-030310.article">Link

Notice how Daley thinks its OK for him to have a gun. Maybe he'll get to ban Starbucks from Chicago as a consolation prize. ;)

[movonne]

1. good for him...

[tinymontgomery]

2. I think he has a valid point

why can't I walk into a courthouse with my gun (if I owned one)? Why can't I go into the capital with my pistol instead of standing in line for an hour and a half to tour my capital?

[armueller2001]

3. Because federal buildings are secured

areas with armed guards and checkpoints.

This case has absolutely NOTHING to do with restrictions on where firearms can be carried, or even carrying firearms at all. Daley is trying to make the case into something it's not. It's simply about keeping handguns in the home just like 99.999% of the country is allowed to do. Big deal. It's not going to be the end of the world.

[MUAD_DIB]

11. I have to agree with you on this. I'm pro 2cnd amendment, but I don't want to

see a firearm free-for-all.

[SteveM]

35. "firearm free-for-all" is the latest controller/prohibitionist meme...

Respectfully, this line of "reasoning" is the latest fear-mongering spewed forth from the Bradys and others. Since "blood will run in the streets and aspens" and "more guns = more crime" didn't pan out, they have come up with this latest crap. Variations:

They want to legalize guns for EVERYONE!
They won't be satisfied until children have guns!
Guns for everyone!
Guns will solve all our problems!

Etc., etc. The fact remains that between a third and 40% of Americans own guns, a small percentage of gun-owners have CCW, and the crime rate has not gone up (over the last 15 years it has gone down). The prohis love strawmen; they're cheap and fast to throw together.

[Abq_Sarah]

13. Because

Politicians can use our money to protect themselves and their guests with armed guards.

[Euromutt]

16. I'll tell you why not in a courthouse

Ditto police stations, county jails, and prisons: all of these potentially contain persons detained as criminal suspects, defendants or convicts who might be inclined to use a firearm to forcibly effect their escape from custody. So there's a compelling interest to keep firearms out of such buildings.

You can actually carry in the state capitol here in Washington.

[X_Digger]

17. You can also carry in the state house in Texas (mostly)

Just not on the actual floor or in the viewing galleries.

[Bumblebee]

4. Does DU have to be like Starbucks? I am going to boycott Starbucks as long as they allow guns.

Whenever I see posts from the local guns lobby, I sure feel like boycotting DU as well.

[armueller2001]

5. Are you going to boycott every other

business that does not have a "NO GUNS" sign out front?

[OffWithTheirHeads]

6. Bu Bye!

[benEzra]

10. Don't ever visit Vermont, then.

FWIW, your state has had shall-issue carry licensure since 1961. It's only recently that the Brady Campaign has been trying to stir up hysteria about it.

[GreenStormCloud]

12. Why should Starbucks ask a law-abiding paying customer to leave? N/T

[Abq_Sarah]

15. Actually

I don't have a problem with any business that posts a visible sign prohibiting firearms. Depending on how "activist" they are, I may or may not give them my business.

[Abq_Sarah]

14. No problem

I seriously doubt a site called Democratic Underground is going to provide a forum dedicated to stripping citizens of their constitutional rights.

[dashrif]

24. Looks

like you already have I don't see a star, you can buy a cup of over priced joe but can't throw the DU a five spot? \


edit: for spelling silly goose

[cowman]

26. By our guest

boycott, that's your right just like it's my right to keep and bear arms

[proteus_lives]

30. Bye-Bye.

You might as well pack your bags.

We're never going to stop fighting for our rights.

[PavePusher]

31. Good for you!

You'll be my Starbucks counterweight.

See? Everyone has a niche in life.

[Callisto32]

32. Guess you'd better put your boycottin' shoes on.

Because a LOT of places allow guns. You just don't realize it because they are concealed.

[SteveM]

36. Boycotts are least effective when they are used as idle threat...

I boycott or just plain refuse go to many busineses. Fastfood (unhealthy products), McDonald's (products, support exemptions for food handlers from minimum wage), Starbucks (just another chain when plenty of local houses with "local" money abound), Dominoes Pizzas (big contributor to anti-choice interests). I have my reasons and I share them, and I have been doing so for MANY years.

Otherwise, the "threat" of a boycott is pretty idle.

[Lurks Often]

7. Oh Please

This from a man who has at LEAST one armed policeman driving him around everywhere.

Why is he special?

[-..__...]

8. This guy is totally of his meds.

The article quotes it as "sarcasm", but given Daleys past behavior and comments, I have my doubts.

The ironic thing is given the "may issue" guidelines of some states, his royal highness would be denied a firearms permit based on his
erratic and unpredictable behavior.

[Pullo]

19. double post

deleted

[Pavulon]

9. He should be happy, he can skim the permits like is common practice

in NYC and SOCAL. Contributions made to get may issue permits should be right up his alley.

[Pullo]

20. Here's a great example of just that

King Rudy and the gun ban

by John Kass
Chicago Tribune, March 3rd

In its wisdom, the U.S. Supreme Court finally took up Chicago's ridiculous 27-year-old handgun ban on Tuesday.

Why is it ridiculous? Because only three classes of people are comfortable with handguns in the anti-handgun city:

Cops, criminals and the politically connected.

Mayor Richard Daley sure is upset that the ban might be overturned. But he probably has more armed guards protecting him than the president of Venezuela.

Chicago aldermen are allowed to carry handguns. I wanted to ask the chairman of the City Council's police committee about those gun-toting aldermen. But there was no chairman. The last one just resigned after pleading guilty to federal bribery charges, so he wasn't around.

If the Supreme Court really wanted to know why some folks in Chicago have guns and others don't, they should have called an expert witness:

Rudy Acosta, the former "gangsta" rap impresario, or King Rudy, as he likes to be known.

King Rudy, 34, lives in Chicago. He's had lots and lots of handguns.

"Oh, leave Rudy alone," said his wily and high-profile criminal defense lawyer Joseph "The Shark" Lopez. "Rudy's just another hard-working average American trying to make a dollar."

King Rudy has been arrested at least twice with guns. But he's never been convicted of a felony.

He once told police he's a former member of the Satan Disciples street gang. He now has a video portraying him as a kingpin, a "man of respect," with fine cigars, sweet rides and power.

"That's a video from a long time ago <2008>," Lopez said. "He's a self-promoter. It's the American way."

Back then, I wrote a few columns about Acosta and his monstrous castle on the Northwest Side overlooking the Kennedy Expressway.

Although the neighbors objected to the construction, King Rudy understands the Chicago Way. His father was a Democratic machine precinct captain. Rudy hired a member of the political Banks family — the first family of zoning — to win castle approval from City Hall.

Back then, I wrote he'd been arrested by Chicago police, who said they found four illegal handguns and $112,000 in cash in a wall safe.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-03-03-20100303,0,4193036.column?page=1">Link

It gets better from there.

[Jackson1999]

21. Wow., just wow

I never knew this. That is a great column.

[-..__...]

22. Oooo, Oooo, Mr Kotter...

you left out Richard Mell...

In 2007 Mell failed to re-register his extensive firearms collection, as required by Chicago's gun control law, a law which he helped to write. Mell, along with Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, proposed a one-month amnesty, where the gun registry would be re-opened. Pistol registration was closed in 1982 and the window only allowed guns registered before then, so all new registration attempts were rejected. Mell had claimed that thousands of Chicagoans were in his situation and would benefit, but just 25 people successfully registered guns during the "amnesty."<1><2>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mell

[TPaine7]

18. Wrong question!

I have a better one:

Somewhere in Chicago is a woman who has been threatened and beaten by her ex. She has a restraining order. And a perfect criminal record. She is not associated with crime families or gangs, and she is a good and decent woman. But she cannot carry a handgun for her protection, or even own one in her home.

The question Daley needs to concern himself with is why a pompous, blowhard jackass of a mayor from a thuggish crime family should be able to carry a weapon throughout Chicago and even have a phalanx of armed police officers protect his sorry ass--paid for by our heroine's tax dollars, no less--while a decent endangered woman should be stripped of her constitutional rights?

And a follow up question for Hizzoner:

In a perfect America, what would happen to a thug from a line of thugs who took it upon himself to strip citizens of their rights?

(After a fair and impartial legal trial, of course?)

[Jackson1999]

23. He is really reaching back.

From the Sun Times article. Quote by Daley.

“There’s a reality, but also there should be passion and common sense. We assassinated President John F. Kennedy. We assassinated Martin Luther King. And we assassinated Robert F. Kennedy"

Judas Priest! I am surprised he did not mention McKinley and Lincoln!

[TPaine7]

25. Hey, that's a confession!!!!!

He's saying that the Daley crime family assassinated Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy.

Cases closed.

[Euromutt]

27. I bet he knows where Hoffa's body is too (n/t)

[PavePusher]

28. "Why can’t I go see my congressman who doesn’t believe in gun laws?"

Well, in some places, you can.

You ignorant fool.

(Not you, Pullo!)

[proteus_lives]

29. That corrupt POS bitching and moaning?

Brings a smile to my face.

I he thinks only cops and his mob buddies should have guns.

[one-eyed fat man]

33. Some pigs are more equal than others

DALEY, HAS A 24/7 ARMED SECURITY DETAIL, MADE UP OF CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS, PROTECTING HIM AND HIS FAMILY AT THE TAXPAYERS EXPENSE.

Thanks to an 1876 law declaring the Mayor and Alderman peace officers, he and the 50 Chicago Aldermen are not only entitled to handguns but to concealed carry as well. (Even the ones that are convicted felons)

One can only assume that Daley thinks they are more valuable ordinary Chicagoans, well…….THEY’RE NOT!

Gun Control-Chicago Style

[slackmaster]

34. What a douche nozzle!

I don't understand why the people of Chicago put up with that crap.

[Callisto32]

38. I'm guessing its because he "wins" elections?

But I don't really know what kind of support he has....so I could easily be wrong.

[Walk away]

37. That's a great post! .....n/t