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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:46 PM
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Va. student accused of bringing gun to school
NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (AP) - A high school student is being accused of bringing a gun to a school in Newport News.

Nineteen-year-old Wayne Raynod King was charged Tuesday with a felony count of having a firearm on school property and a misdemeanor count of having a concealed weapon.

Police spokesman Lou Thurston said a concerned parent notified the principal at Denbigh High School that a student had a gun.

After removing the student from class, a school security officer found an unloaded .380 caliber handgun and rounds of ammunition in his pocket.

http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=12149580
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damyank913 Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:51 PM
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1. Wait, this is VA, isn't this legal now?
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:07 PM
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6. Actually, it's yet another violation of the "gun-free zone" feel-good policy...
If you can find anyone who is advocating that kids bring guns to schools, please inform us; otherwise, I will assume that you continue to support "feel-good" stuff.

I support having full-time armed staff in schools where kids are too young to legally carry, and the removal of the lurid "gun-free zone" signs.

Please keep in mind that Dylan Klebold and his Dad had a last conversation over then-pending concealed-carry legislation in Colorado. They both agreed it should be defeated.
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damyank913 Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:14 PM
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9. Kids bringing guns to school=conservative sanctioned birth control.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:16 PM
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11. Please explain.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:18 PM
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15. Forget it
It's just another post to try and tie guns with the right. What people don't realize is there are PLENTY on the left who feel the same way when it comes to guns and gun control.

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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:55 PM
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29. Figured it was, but couldn't get the comparison drift...
maybe it was an indirect reference to the penis thing; birth control and all.
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damyank913 Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:23 PM
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16. I'm saying that Bob McDonald and Ken Cuccinelli are both right wing-nuts.
Hand guns in bars, really? Sorry if my :sarcasm: wasn't clear-happens to me all the time.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 06:07 PM
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26. Oddly, legal Citizens bearing arms in bars...
does not seem to be an overwhelming problem.

Unless you have stats to the contrary, of course.
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 03:54 PM
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34. Stats don't matter if something "sounds" bad to somebody.
That's something I've quickly learned when dealing with ignorant people on both sides of the political spectrum.
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damyank913 Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 05:49 AM
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36. There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics...
That's pathetic-you're calling me ignorant because I don't agree with you? You ever been to a bar on a Saturday night? Does your whole life revolve around demagoguing gun control issues on-line? Use your head for more than a shoulder spacer pal.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:20 AM
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32. No, and there is zero probability that the student had a concealed weapons permit
Minimum age to get a permit is 21, and regardless of that it's illegal to bring a firearm to school.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:57 PM
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2. Fascists!
Denying this poor freedom-loving red-blooded patriot the right to carry around a gun he only uses for competitive target shooting!

Why, even if he were a CRIMINAL in his black hat and all, we can't know until he demonstrates his genetic evils! And even if he did, who cares, is the fault of other students and teachers for not being armed!

We need MORE guns in schools, not less!

/Nugentian
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:59 PM
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:13 PM
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8. Punks!
Aren't you getting a little carried away? Laws already prevent kids from having handguns. Frankly, there should be at least some armed adults in schools to lessen the chance of a "schoolyard spectacular," and there should NOT be the enticing "gun-free zone" signs; I mean, you really don't mean to invite the HyperPunk into your kids' schools, do you?

You should dispose of this gun-control lobby "give-everybody-guns" meme. It's already beginning to stink.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:14 PM
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14. Gun Free Zone = Target Rich Environment
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:42 PM
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35. Carried away? Can't get carried away while conducting mockery
Maybe the pro-gun lobby should dispense with "if you get shot it's your fault for not having a gun handy" meme that you're participating in.

Or maybe they could adopt a consistent stance, instead of "GUN CONTROL IS EVIL EXCEPT WHEN IT ISN'T, EXCEPT WHEN IT IS!"
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:29 PM
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17. You seem to be the only one in favor of arming children in schools.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:00 PM
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4. all kids should be allowed to carry to school - 2nd amendment does NOT probhibit this nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:01 PM
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:15 PM
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10. Get edumakated. Everybody sees you saying this stuff, how embarrassing. nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:30 PM
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18. You are correct the 2nd Amendment doesn't prohibit it. Federal laws do.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:31 PM
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19. What Amendment prohibits a private citizen from doing anything?
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:37 PM
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28. I think you need to call a plumber.. your mindless regurgitator is backed up..
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 10:43 PM by X_Digger
.. and is spewing shit again..

.. "fear of a black president"
.. "arm everyone"
.. "guns for {someone}. 2nd amendment doesn't prohibit.."

You seem to be stuck in an endless loop.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:21 AM
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33. You got spnaked so badly last time you were here, I thought you'd never come back
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:07 PM
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7. This guy is a winner
19 years old and still in high school. Betcha he has a rap sheet and betcha it's gang related. He's obviously not going to pass an NICS check so the weapon is illegal and he illegally had it. But there are laws against this so he shouldn't have had it.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:34 PM
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12. Unless he was a prohibited person...
it is legal to own a handgun at 18.

But not legal for him to have it at school. I have my own thoughts on that, depending on his intentions, but that's a subject for another debate.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:12 PM
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13. I betcha he's prohibited
I'll bet your paycheck on it..:)
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 05:47 PM
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21. And I'll bet yours... :evilgrin:
But seriously, you are probably correct.

However, the article is remarkably devoid of info; I can think up plenty of scenarios for a person to be 19 and in high school. And I hate to perpetuate the common misconception that under-21's may not own handguns.

Either way, he's almost certainly a prohibited person now.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:10 AM
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30. I was 19 when I graduated HS
I was held back from entering mainstream school because the school district didn't allow deaf people into public schools (in the early eighties, they all went to deaf school in MN) so we were in a long protracted court battle, which we eventually won.

Way to paint us 19-year-old high school graduates as "gangers". (I am now 29 and currently doing a MA at the moment)
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:20 AM
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31. I never painted ALL 19 year olds as "bangers"
There are legitimate reasons to graduate late. However, in this SPECIFIC instance, 19 years old and in illegal possession of a weapon (he had it on school property) paints a picture of someone who isn't giving it his all. I may very well be mistaken, just looking at the facts presented.

My apologies, I didn't mean to paint you with a broad brush.
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 05:27 PM
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20. Update, with video.
http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-gun-at-denbigh-high-school,0,404963.story

King has been charged with one count each of having a concealed weapon and having a firearm on school property."

Having a concealed weapon is a misdemeanor, having a firearm on school property is a felony. He has violated at least two firearms laws, and will now likely loose his right to lawfully keep and bear arms for life.



http://hamptonroads.com/2010/03/police-student-brought-gun-newport-news-school

"The student said he had the gun for protection, police said."
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 05:55 PM
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22. " had the gun for protection" but he should have called 911, that's what the anti-gun group says.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 06:48 PM by jody
Sad incident but he wanted to carry a gun for the same reason a law-abiding citizen does, for self-defense and the handgun is the choice of 675k sworn law enforcement officers and most of the 42% of 105+m households of law-abiding citizens.
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 06:02 PM
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23. The law is the law.
If I am required to be defenseless when I go to school, so must everyone else, until the law is changed.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 06:08 PM
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27. Agree, I was pointing out the perceived need for self-defense whether a law-abiding citizen or
criminal.

The desire to defend against an attack is there whether one is a law-abiding citizen or criminal.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 06:03 PM
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24. 200+k? Or did you mean "M"? n/t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 06:05 PM
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25. Thanks, for catching my error. n/t
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