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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:21 PM
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Two arrested in Va. road-rage shooting
Two Virginia men were arrested after one, driving with his 2-year-old daughter in the car, fired 13 shots at a truck that hit his vehicle, authorities said.

A Ford truck and Jaguar containing the child had collided during afternoon rush hour as the two jockeyed for position while trying to merge along southbound I-95 Tuesday, The Washington Post reported.

"The drivers of the two vehicles began engaging with one another in an aggressive manner," a police statement said. The dump truck struck the Jaguar two times, and the vehicles "ended up on the left shoulder and pinned against the Jersey wall."

Police allege at that time the driver of the Jaguar, Gabriel Poventud, 25, armed with a handgun, fired 13 shots into the truck driven by James Bringham, 44, the Post said. Bringham then drove his truck into traffic with Poventud following for about 5 miles until they were stopped by Virginia State Police Trooper B.W. Coleman.

Bringham was charged with reckless driving. Poventud faces charges of attempted homicide, child endangerment, use of a firearm in the commission of a felony, reckless use of a firearm and shooting a missile into an occupied vehicle.

There were no reports of any other motorists or vehicles being hit by bullets, the Post said.

More: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/03/24/Two-arrested-in-Va-road-rage-shooting/UPI-14521269468513/

What do you bet that the driver of the Jaguar had a CCW?
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:23 PM
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1. Ah .... just a typical drive on 95
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:59 PM
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divideandconquer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:01 PM
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3. Yeah real safe, the highest murder rate of all industrialized nations
:crazy:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:09 PM
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:47 PM
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14. We take stats :differently:
LOL- you surely do.

Anything, no matter how spurious the claim to justify the myriad problems brought on people and American society by the proliferation of gums.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 02:42 AM
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18. You might want to look up a place called "Russia"
The homicide rate is three or four times that of the United States. I know, it's such a small, obscure country that it's very easy to overlook, but it is most assuredly industrialized.

There are other former component republics of the USSR that also have higher homicide (and suicide) rates than the United States, such as Belarus, Ukraine, and the "Baltic republics" of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. The latter three are even member states of the European Union these days.

Or does your definition of "industrialized nation" have an ad hoc exclusion for countries with higher homicide rates than the United States?
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:04 AM
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24. I predict a shift of those goal-posts...
in 4... 3... 2...
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divideandconquer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 08:37 PM
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33. Proud to beat Russia? Notice India has less murder? What about japan? Ireland?
Russia's really not all that advanced outside making weapons, more like North Korea on steroids.
<http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita>
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 10:23 AM
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26. Our non-gun homicide rate is higher than the total homicide rates of those same nations
It's not the guns. It shitty social servies, chronic poverty, and insane drug laws.
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:27 PM
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7. ccw safer? Hahaha. you must be joking.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:43 PM
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13. Reading comprehension: "what will you bet"
That would be my bet- but the article doesn't say.

As to CCW making "the coutry safer..."

:rofl:
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:17 PM
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5. Why not wait till the facts come out? Oh that's right you don't care about the facts.
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:24 PM
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6. thankfully the law abiding gun owner will be a felon now. No more guns and no more kids.
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:34 PM
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8. "What do you bet that the driver of the Jaguar had a CCW?"
Don't need to bet, because it's moot. Indisputable government stats prove that CCW holders are much less likely to commit gun violence that non-CCW holders. You can toss around all of the isolated incidents you want -- it doesn't change the big picture.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 12:25 AM
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16. I love reading
Edited on Fri Mar-26-10 12:54 AM by cowman
yours and depakid's posts, I really need a good laugh to help relieve the stress of my job. We just got back from a 2 car wreck and now I'm relaxing with my buddies at the station house just laughing our asses off at you 2

When you stop being ridiculous maybe you can engage in serious discussion.

I've got a better idea for depakid, mind your own business and take care of the problems in your own country
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:34 PM
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9. I'd bet your life and fifty cents against anybody's dollar. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:37 PM
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:42 PM
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12. It appears you replied to the wrong post. n/t
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 02:57 AM
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20. Yep ---- used to a different bulletin board format.
And haven't made the time to check out the system here. Too busy with school.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 12:20 AM
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 12:28 AM
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17. You've just been
punked by calbluedem.

I bet you are just crying right now
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:04 AM
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21. Bitterly, my friend. Bitterly.
All gross stupidity that contributes to the empowerment of the GOP makes me weep. Not ashamed to say it. And sometimes I'm moved to do this: :banghead:
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:28 AM
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23. Because we know that felons never carry illegal guns. nt
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:37 PM
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10. This proves that depakid's policy preferences should be implemented immediately! n/t
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 02:54 AM
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19. "typical 17 post by a gun goon hiding behind a new account........
.........grow a pair, sonny."

It's a new account because I'm a brand new member. Never posted at DU until now -- everybody's gotta be new sometime, "sonny".

It is you who in fact needs to grow a pair. You're unable to put the Democratic Party ahead of your precious little ego. And as long as were on the subject of "growing a pair", isn't it interesting that this feeble little jab is being thrown by a person who doesn't identify
his/her gender on their profile? Too funny!
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:24 AM
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22. Love note to cabluedem
Are you aware, "sonny", that the uberbrilliant California "assault weapons" ban resulted in a three to four-fold INCREASE in the number of said weapons in our state? Rhetorical question ----- of course you're not. And who cares about actual results of
moronic policy when you can (falsely) claim the "moral high ground".

To make the matter yet more pathetic, after the mass influx of rifles "assault weapon" owners were asked to register their firearms. How many do you suppose actually did?

"A book whose sales forbidden all men rush to see, and prohibition turns one reader into three". Italian proverb
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:52 AM
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25. I see your anecdotal evidence, and I raise you 5 more.
Apparently guns don't cause road rage... I'll be damned. I thought the gun sits on the passenger seat screaming at me to kill other motorists. It's the gun! The gun made me do it! Get rid of the guns before they make me shoot someone else!!!!!

Ahem...

Sorry...

Here are some storys that don't involve guns... But do involve road rage... Brought to you by our friends down under.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/man-jailed-over-road-rage-stabbing-20100322-qpqu.html

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/road-rage-two-stabbed-after-uturn-20100315-q6b0.html

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/road-rage-sparked-deadly-hammer-and-knife-attack-20100222-op0s.html

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/man-stabbed-a-possible-road-rage-victim-20100226-p6b8.html

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/man-charged-over-road-rage-stabbing-20100128-n1lg.html
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 10:35 AM
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27. I'll bet you a beer he didn't have a CCW
You're on.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 12:45 PM
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29. What's the over/under on that?
I want in on that as well...
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 01:16 PM
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30. The disembodied spirit of Jimmy the Greek Snyder says 9 to 1 against a CCW
I just channeled him.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 01:18 PM
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31. So...
When I win, I will only get 1.3 ounces of beer.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 01:39 PM
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32. Give me 24oz:12oz odds and I might take that bet.
Better not 24oz of pisswater either. :)
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 12:43 PM
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28. Ban roads.
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