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mvccd1000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:03 AM
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Homeowner misuses gun
:sarcasm: (Let me get that in right from the beginning.)

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2010/03/home_owner_fights_off_two_men.html

FLINT, Michigan — A homeowner was able to chase away two men who apparently broke into his home Sunday morning at Circle Drive and Country Club Lane.

The man came home around midnight on Sunday and saw the two suspects standing near his garage. One of the suspects had the victim's rifle while another had a shovel.

The victim told the suspects that he was armed, and told them to drop the rifle. He grabbed the rifle from the suspect and the two suspects fled. Police could not find them.

The victim found his house ransacked and his other rifle missing.

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I thought all gun owners were bloodthirsty louts who would shoot someone over the price of a home stereo? What's wrong with this idiot, simply using the presence of his gun to scare off a pair of intruders?
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:30 AM
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1. Just the strawmen gun owners the NRA conjures

Respectfully, got an example of an actual person or organization touting the view that "all gun owners are bloodthirsty louts?"

On the other hand, a few minutes' searching will pull up all manner of folks happy to support shooting people to, say, protect a neighbor's television set.

The song remains the same. Americans have more gun liberties and more support for same, than any industrialized democracy in the world.

How long, I wonder can the gun lobby maintain its overly healthy sense of persecutorial hysteria in a country where the battle lines are drawn not over whether someone can own a weapon or carry a weapon, or shoot someone they "believe to be a threat," but over whether an employer even has the right to keep firearms off of their private property, or whether a compact semi-automatic designed for military use is a "deer rifle?"



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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:04 PM
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5. Search for 'sanity hanging by a thread' in the guns forum..
I won't 'call out' a poster by name, but that search will yield results matching the 'all gun owners are bloodthirsty louts' view.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 05:46 PM
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8. You guys need a new issue. this one is done. this is not 1990
and no one believes gun control is worth jack shit. that deer rifle is a sniper rifle. You know because it can make a 1000 yard shot. think of the children..

please research a topic before you post.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:42 AM
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2. Holy crap
Wasn't he supposed to start blasting away at the bad guys, filling them full of lead, then stand over their limp bodies and pump more lead into their heads?

That's what anti-gunners insist us evil gun owners do.

This is yet ANOTHER example of a crime being interrupted, by an armed homeowner, NO SHOTS BEING FIRED, and no one is hurt (physically). Mentally, the homeowner has to live knowing his home was violated.

As one who had his home broken into just before Christmas in 1980, I had the sense, for the longest time, my home was no longer mine, even though I was paying for it.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:57 AM
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3. "Almost " entirely interrupted ,
and for the briefest of periods .
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:33 AM
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4. More straw "antis" courageously destroyed
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 10:35 AM by DirkGently
Wasn't he supposed to start blasting away at the bad guys, filling them full of lead, then stand over their limp bodies and pump more lead into their heads?

That's what anti-gunners insist us evil gun owners do.


Again, respectfully, this is a strawman. Find someone who actually says that.

Moreover, here is an *anecdotal* case of a gun owner, blasting away at the bad guys, filling them full of lead, and then (after calmly walking around the prostrate bad guy to go to a drawer and reload), standing over the limp body and pumping more lead into his head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-f8Tmh_o8

The non-bloodthirsty pro-gun response? Surely not an instantaneous overreaction to the perceived injustice of prosecuting someone for coldly murdering an unconsious, un-armed teenager, and proposed legislation with a hyper-macho theme.

Cause that would be crazy.

OKLAHOMA CITY — Legislation pending in the House would expand the state’s “Make My Day” law to businesses supporters say.
Senate Bill 2257 would make it lawful for business owners to use force to defend themselves and their property, according to the Senate media office.
Sen. Joe Sweeden, D-Pawhuska, said he wrote the legislation in part as a result of an Oklahoma City case last year in which pharmacist Jerome Ersland shot and killed would-be robber Antwun Parker at the Reliable Discount Pharmacy. Parker fell after being shot once, and then Ersland shot him several more times.


http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=16&articleid=20100319_11_0_OKLAHO77425

:)
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:16 PM
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6. Umm.. judicious reading of this thread..
Will lead to analogues of that statement..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=305867&mesg_id=305867

I mean, c'mon.. it's right there in today's threads :)
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 04:23 PM
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7. Sometimes I think
People that say, "prove to me someone says that", glance over comments they generally agree with and go after those they don't. By doing that, they miss a lot of the overly emotional anti-gun comments that are made.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, this is the U.S. after all, but it gets my dander up when someone is trying to shut down the 2A because of their irrational fear.
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