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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:53 AM
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Police: Man In 70s Foils Burglary, Shoots Intruder
http://www.kirotv.com/news/23076544/detail.html

CARNATION, Wash. -- Police said a man in his 70s foiled an attempted burglary when he shot an alleged intruder. His neighbor held the suspect at gunpoint until police arrived at the man's home near Carnation.

King County Sheriff's Office spokesman John Urquhart said the homeowner woke up shortly before 6 a.m. after he heard sounds of someone breaking into his car.

Urquhart said as the homeowner went to his back door, a man kicked in the door and the two men began to fight. The homeowner was struck in the head with an object, police said.

Police said the victim fled to another room, retrieved a handgun, shot the intruder twice and then went to a neighbor's house. The neighbor then came to the victim's home and held the suspect at gunpoint until officers arrived, Urquhart said.


This guy has parkinson's. Glad he's okay.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:57 AM
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1. folks are more likely to have guns out in the tulies like carnation
so why not prowl cars in a nice liberal neighborhood in the city, dumb ass robber?
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:57 AM
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2. He should have used "natrual fighting skills" instead of a gun... zero points.
:crazy:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:21 AM
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3. Burglars generally flee when confronted with a pissed off homeowner
so this guy was a real exception.

I'm an old granny lady (although as a retired nurse, I know how to hurt someone bad), and I've scared burglars off.

The best policy isn't to shoot a robber who wants to fight you for your stuff. The best policy is to damage him badly enough he'll let you run away. Then scream "911" at the top of your lungs as you bang on your neighbor's door.

Any intruder who wants to fight is crazy. Best thing is to leave.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:26 AM
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4. *nod* Looks like this burglar was looking for a confrontation..
.. could have left when he heard the old guy coming out to check on his car (obviously he heard him because he was waiting at the back door.) Could have left when the homeowner retrieved his handgun.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:31 AM
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5. That is seriously funny
You do realize if that happened to you, you would have lost without question. Had the home owner not been able to get a gun he would have had almost no chance.

Your plan amounts to hoping someone will hear your screams before you are unable to continue screaming.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:44 AM
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6. Running away is always the best plan
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 11:45 AM by Warpy
Do you not think a thug is more interested in your stuff that he is in you? He's going to hear the screaming, grab that flat screen TV, and book on out of there, his job done for the day.

In any case, such a jerk is more likely to follow me when I'm getting the gun and take it away from me and shoot me with it, adding the gun to his haul for the day.

This guy was just plain lucky. Admit it.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:52 AM
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7. I think the disconnect is hilarious
You are posting that "Running away is always the best plan" as a response to a situation where it would not have helped. Obviously if CAN'T always be the best plan, you have just been presented a situation where it wasn't.

How does "the best plan" include having your stuff stolen and being defenseless against attack? If you had a gun you could have prevented your stuff from being stolen and assisted in the prosecution of a criminal.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:17 PM
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:26 PM
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10. Firearms are brutally effective for self defense.
This is why police officers carry them as well as every infantryman in modernized armies. They're not better than rifles... but they beat the hell out of being unarmed and physically over matched. Having your firearm taken away and used on yourself is very rare - almost to the point of being statistically insignificant. If you feel it's so common, surely you can provide numerous links and examples...

Also, when you get done knocking down your straw men don't forget to take a dose of reality with your afternoon meds. No one in the gungeon is claiming invulnerability. Actually, stated SEVERAL places in the last month alone, gungeoneers recognize that a sidearm is merely another OPTION (the final option) when other means of safety are exhausted or inadequate. Using a firearm offers another choice... it is no guarantee. However, if you really enjoy spending time beating up on your own constructs, by all means, go ahead - it's a free country.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:30 PM
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11. The disconnect is in your mind
How could he get away? The POS pushed his way in and started to beat him, a 70 yo man, you can say all you want that the best defense is to run away but you tell me what 70 yo can outrun a young punk, the only problem I have is that he didn't kill the POS, who knows how many other victims there were before he was stopped.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:32 PM
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12. BTW
the word gunloon is a derogatory word so don't be surprised if your post is deleted
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:38 PM
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13. What happens in Reality, like the OP
Where your advice could have only made the situation worse.

Please prepare yourself for reality. If the same thing had happened to you, you would without question be seriously injured at best.

Support your claim that having a gun is more likely to cause you to get killed.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:18 PM
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9. Zombies don't get tired and Velociraptors can run 40mph... neither acknowledges pain or fear.
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 12:34 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
Evidently, running is not always the best strategy.






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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:58 PM
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14. The only way an assailant can take your gun away from you is if you don't shoot him first.
To take you gun away, he has to get within grabbing distance of your gun. Shoot him first.

If he is already close, start shooting!

If he is close, don't hold the gun like they do on TV, at arm's length. Hold it in close to yourself. Then if he grabs for it, shoot!

BTW, my wife, like me, is a senior citizen, and a few years ago she used her gun to defend herself from violent attack. Would be crook took off running before he could start his actual attack. He didn't try to grab her gun. He ran like Hell.
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