Why I Don't care for background checks

[Travis Coates]

I received an Email today from members of our state rifle association It said, in part,

We're getting another hosing. There was a major gun show in Colorado Springs this weekend. Sunday was a complete bust, for one reason. CBI's phone system didn't open until 1:00 PM, and when it did, they informed the dealers who called in for background checks that they had a backlog of law enforcement business, and would therefore be unable to service gun sales. As a result, there were NO guns sold on Sunday. Dealers were packing up and leaving the show, as they were unable to make legal sales. There were an awful lot of people who lost an awful lot of money, as a result. I expect the same thing occurred at sporting goods stores around the state.

This is unconscionable, and I, personally, am convinced it's intentional. CBI has pulled slowdowns in the past to hamper gun shows, but this is the first time, they've just simply refused to do background checks for sales. They're upset with the state legislature for not giving them the funding they want, for their fancy new computer system they want, and for other items on their agenda. This is their way of putting pressure on the legislature.

Anytime you place the bureaucrat at the bottleneck you run the risk he/she may shut it down just to prove they can. Background checks give the government the ability to stop gun sales just by saying "our computers are down"

Am I the only one who sees the danger here?

[msongs]

1. terrorists & serial killers have 2nd amendment rights too ya know. nt

[depakid]

2. Don't forget felons and mentally disturbed individuals!

[Pavulon]

7. OMG before the brady silliness the world was a disaster..(nt)

[depakid]

9. Yep- spread those guns everywhere!

Fill up the households, hospitals and the schools!

and don't forget the airports!

[Pavulon]

12. Mid morning in NSW, no internet filter yet.

US gun policy is a bamboozle (trick) played on the ignorant to believe the people in charge actually care about their poor miserable existence and are "making the streets safer".

The vast majority of gun crime here is culture related to drug violence. That or suicide. Remove those factors and you have a place like canada or finland, or switzerland where people have guns. They just dont use them in crimes.

Protect your rights because once they are gone they rarely come back.

[depakid]

23. LOL- your comments really are pathetic

though your obsession with spreading guns- and blaming others leans more toward the pathological.

[HALO141]

32. You should know.

Your comments are the most unsubstantiated tripe available on DU.

[friendly_iconoclast]

21. Like the Victoria police buying 11,000+ new semi-automatic hanguns?

Seems like some of your countrymen and -women are doing their bit for gun proliferation.

Personally, I'd like to thank them- they will be made in Massachusetts and we need the jobs.

[SteveM]

42. No sources? Links? Citations?

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[iverglas]

35. kindly read the forum rules

You seem to have missed one.

[Callisto32]

31. I suppose you and Depakid missed the part where...

they packed up because they can't make legal sales...

Or are you being intentionally thick?

[oneshooter]

40. It's not that they missed them, they just don't give a damn! n/t

[SteveM]

41. No sources? Links? Citations?

[Skittles]

3. OMG I couldn't buy a gun on Sunday!

whatever will I DO!!! :rofl:

[Pavulon]

11. What the hell do you care. If you do get shot

odds are it was not the "nra types" who shot you in the face for you car. Odds are not a legal gun owner or purchase by the person who pops you.

What will they do, not vote D over a stupid issue.

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Sundays can be such a bore anyway.

:crazy:

[provis99]

5. and the government carried out 9/11

is this "Try out your tin foil hat" Day?:eyes:

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[depakid]

10. Irony impairment...

or paranoia- or obsession. So many pathologies to choose from.

[leeloo]

14. You choose whatever pathology you like,easier than saying something constructive..

[X_Digger]

8. K&R

That these idiots upthread don't see a problem with letting some bureaucrat determine which of their rights are valid is asinine.

[onehandle]

13. Danger? Tough shit. nt

[friendly_iconoclast]

20. I wouldn't be so smug. Republicans like to do this with voter registration

Or is it okay in this case because you approve of the result?

[Hoopla Phil]

15. I wonder if the legislature could change the law a bit to assert penalties

for not doing the background checks.

[HALO141]

33. Penalties on who, CBI? Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. n/t

[rrneck]

16. If people are required to have a background check to buy a gun

then the service should be available.

Everybody that couldn't buy a gun at the show should give the gov a call.

[Hoopla Phil]

17. This is how "reasonable" gets subverted to "unreasonable" and why pro 2 A folks fight so

hard against new forms of supposedly "reasonable" gun controls.

[jazzhound]

18. And how Dems lose elections. n/t

[MichaelHarris]

24. Dems loose

elections because of faulty phone lines? Wow, I never knew that.

[Pavulon]

25. Supporting laws that interfere with legal owners is bad

that is how newt got into office.

[friendly_iconoclast]

27. Class, can we say "deprivation of civil rights under color of law"?

Good! I just knew we could!

[jazzhound]

19. This is an issue, like so many control related issues that the pro-control

crew isn't even aware exists.

That is, the underhanded de facto gun "control" measures that can be employed to subvert the law.

And of course they'd be screaming bloody murder if this same type of dirty politics were to be applied to one of their favored agendas.

[MichaelHarris]

22. fuck background checks

put guns in cereal boxes and stuff. You know the quarter claw machine? Put Glocks in those for the kids. Anyone see the danger of the OP?

[friendly_iconoclast]

26. You're the second person here who's made that same joke

And both of you are on the same side of the fence...

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[iverglas]

36. kindly read the forum rules

You could also consider getting yourself a dictionary, or at least using the spelling check function.

[Travis Coates]

30. Actually, I was thinking Cracker Jacks

I'm thinking the only reason you're not seeing the real potential for abuse is because you aren't looking

[MichaelHarris]

34. They're

coming to take our guns ha ha, ho ho, hee hee.....Wasn't that a song in the 1960s?

[east texas lib]

37. I don't care for them either, but thankfully I'm exempt from that dumbassery...

The FBI and TX DPS check you out thoroughly before issuing a CHL and as long as you're still in good standing you get to skip Brady. Yuk-Yuk.

[Euromutt]

38. It wasn't the NICS check that was the problem in this case

It was that the Colorado state-level system was down, which is apparently required in addition to the NICS check. I don't really see how a state-level check in addition to the federal check is anything but redundant (provided the state is prompt about keeping the FBI apprised, but if it's not, maybe it should be directing the resources spent on the state-level background check system towards improving its performance in reporting to the feds), so having sales hampered because that redundant system isn't working is awfully frustrating.

[Travis Coates]

39. My understanding is

The state back ground check is in place of the NICS.

I remember reading some where that if you place one bureaucrat in charge of dispensing a form he is de facto in control of everyone who needs that form and likely to stop the flow just tio show he can