(Georgia) Bill allowing guns in airports passes state Legislature

[X_Digger]

http://www.macon.com/2010/04/28/1109607/bill-allowing-guns-in-airports.html

ATLANTA — Gun reforms that would let people carry weapons into Georgia airports won final passage Tuesday night at the Georgia General Assembly.

Senate Bill 291, one of two major gun bills before the assembly this year, cleared the House 120-37. It already had passed the Senate and heads to Gov. Sonny Perdue for his signature.

The bill allows licensed carriers to take their guns into airports, but only up to federally controlled security checkpoints. That would include ticketing areas, as well as airport parking lots and drop-off spots.

Sounds like they changed it so that it's like it is for TX. No 'blood on the runways' here.

[Name removed]

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[onehandle]

2. Yeah, we have a lot of useless right-wing politicians in Georgia.

Thanks for reminding me.

[aikoaiko]

17. check the numbers a lot of Democrats voted for these bills.

That's the reminder you really need.

[onehandle]

18. Yeah, we have a lot of useless right-wing politicians in Georgia.

Red and Bluedog.

[aikoaiko]

29. Sour grapes, eh.

[onehandle]

31. Yes indeed. Right-wingers are a concern.

Not so much in this room. Right-wingers are widely praised.

Funny, that.

[aikoaiko]

32. Funny is your denial that regular Democrats would support keeping and bearing arms

Its almost like you're in denial or stuck in the 1970-1980s understanding of what constitutes good gun laws.

[cowman]

50. Hey Onehandle

the 1970's gun control movement called looking for you

[msongs]

3. prohibiting guns on airplanes and in schools = anti-RKBA bigotry right? nt

[Pavulon]

4. No, the anti folks rely on peoples ignorance

the law allows you to have a gun in specific places in the airport.

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[paulsby]

20. like the law in WA state and numerous other states

is seatac airport unsafe?

i have lots of friends with Port of Seattle PD
here's a hint. it's safe

but there are citizens with gunz there.

oh noes

[Hoopla Phil]

5. Ha Ha Ha. I guess you failed to actually READ what this does. LMAO!!!

[friendly_iconoclast]

6. Prejudice is messing with your reading comprehension. From the OP:

The bill allows licensed carriers to take their guns into airports, but only up to federally controlled security checkpoints. That would include ticketing areas, as well as airport parking lots and drop-off spots.

Nothing about "guns on airplanes".

[SteveM]

12. Some misconceptions, here...

You can carry guns onto airplanes already. You have to check them in, and they are stored below. Standard procedure for years.

[PavePusher]

21. No, but your dishonest allegations, insinuation and innuendo are. n/t

[ProgressiveProfessor]

41. Did you even read the posting or is this more anti civil rights bile from you?

Its in the unsecured area, which is allowed in the vast majority of states already

[HALO141]

42. Aaaaaaand it says that WHERE?

Do you even read the posts or just fling poo?

[Democrats_win]

8. What are they smoking in Georgia?

[Pavulon]

9. Reality. The kind that gets you elected.

vs messing with gun ownership, the stuff that gets guys like newt elected.

[X_Digger]

11. Apparently, same thing they're smoking in TX,..

WA, ID, PA, ME, VT, NH, KY.. (and a shitload more).

[SteveM]

14. Whatever it is, perhaps you should take a toke...

You can transport guns by airplane NOW. You just have to check them in before you enter the secure area. Been that way for years.

[friendly_iconoclast]

10. I'd wager that no one wetting themselves in fear over this...

a) knows that other states already allow this, or
b) can give a rational explanation about why this is a bad thing (beyond the "OMFG, GUNZ IN THE AERPORTZ! BLOOD IN THE LOADING ZONES!!!!I'M SERIES!!!!" we've just seen)

[classysassy]

13. The NRA must have the goods on the clowns down in Ga.

Disband the national guard,let the citizens take care of your problems,I am sure the skin heads and the klan will be all too happy to respond to any and all problems that occur if it involves blacks,browns,yellow and red men.

[X_Digger]

15. You do know that most states don't restrict concealed carry in the unsecured area, right?

And that this is all that has been changed in GA?

[friendly_iconoclast]

16. See posts nos. 15 and 18. Knowledge is your friend. nt

[Zoeisright]

19. Not going to Georgia either then.

Stupid is as stupid does.

[PavePusher]

22. What states DO you go to?

I got a dollar says one of them has this as legal.

[jazzhound]

23. Your options for travel in this country are apparently quite limited..........

............so permit me to lend a hand:
http://newledger.com/2009/05/guns-in-parks-the-hoplophobes’-travel-guide-to-the-united-states/

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

40. I hope your next flight has a GA layover.

A nice LONG layover.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

24. I guess no one remembers the Los Angeles Airport Shooting in 2002

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/07/04/la.airport.shooting/

In other words, is Georgia insane?

[jazzhound]

25. No.

People are able to obtain concealed carry permits by virtue of a history of non-criminal activity and a lack of mental defect.

People who compare citizens with CC permits with criminals are insane.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

26. Hmm...

I'd rather be safe at the airport than run the risk of someone who has a concealed-carry permit hurting someone deliberately.

[jazzhound]

27. The odds of a CC holder "hurting you deliberately" is astronomically slim if

you actually look at the stats.

Of course if you've succumbed to the bs that gun owners are a trigger-happy, bloodthirsty lot......well then there's really very little hope that you'll ever be open to the facts.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

33. Hmm...

Are you sure? I know one person who had a concealed weapon brandish it at me.

So don't tell me it's bs.

[inkool]

38. One out of millions.

The actions of one, no matter how personal, really should not be used to judge an entire group.

Also did this person have a license to carry the weapon concealed or was it just a concealed weapon?

[spin]

49. Did you report it?

In any group of people there are a few bad apples. If this individual brandished a weapon for no cause, he should lose his permit.

Assuming, of course, that you were not threatening him with severe bodily injury or attempting to kill him. I would imagine there are a lot of bad guys who would bitch about someone with a carry permit stopping them from pursuing their chosen occupation by drawing their weapon in a legal manner.

[proteus_lives]

51. I've heard your story before.

It's amazing how you think it applies to the millions of Americans (like myself) who have and use CCW.

Some people really embrace stereotypes and ignorance.

[shadowrider]

28. Statistically, any airport you've ever been to, you've been next to

or near a CCW holder.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

34. Thanks for the info

I'll alert the authorities the next time I'm at the airport.

[shadowrider]

36. And do what?

Stop and search everyone, even though they're breaking no laws, because you fear someone MAY have a CCW?

[Glassunion]

48. Good luck with that. Be sure to let us know how that works out for you.

I'm sure the police will enjoy you wasting their time.

[proteus_lives]

52. That need to control other people.

It really makes your type stand out.

[HALO141]

43. New flash! You've never been safe.

Just because you haven't been hurt doesn't mean you couldn't be hurt.

Nothing has changed.

[friendly_iconoclast]

47. Do you think a strongly-worded sign will keep you safe? nt

[aikoaiko]

30. The problem is that there is nothing to stop that shooting from happening again in most airports

In most airports anyone with malice can walk into the unsecured areas (baggage, ticketing, lobbies) with a handgun illegally concealed and start shooting.

Georgia is not insane. Georgia is allowing people defend themselves from the very type of person you cite in your article (as well as more common criminals).

[FunkyLeprechaun]

35. Oh ok...

Do you really think that a law-abiding gun owner can bring their loaded gun through security?

If the answer is no, why do people bring their guns to the airport anyway if they don't need them there?

[shadowrider]

37. I forgot to get my permit from the "Federal Department of Need"

WAIT..it doesn't exist.

[HALO141]

45. SSSsssshhhhhh!

"WAIT..it doesn't exist."

Not YET it doesn't. Don't say that so loud. Somebody might get ideas. ;)

[aikoaiko]

39. I think your mistaken about what this law proposes.

In any airport, there is the secured area (by TSA) and the unsecured area. The unsecured areas of the airport include the parking lot, the dropoff/pickup areas, baggage, ticketing, lobbies, etc). There are no mechanisms to prevent anyone with malice from carrying in those areas in my state. The secured areas of the airport are beyond the screening area. And yes, it is reasonable prevent lawful carry there because there are mechanisms for preventing unlawful carry there.

The proposed laws going to the Governor's desks allow carry in the unsecured areas -- not the secured areas.

People may need them in unsecured areas as your story from 2002 points out. That incident happened in an unsecured area (ticketing). Also its not uncommon to have to sit in the unsecured areas of the parking lot, pickup areas, and even inside nearly deserted lobbies waiting for someone to arrive late at night. These are places where law abiding folks are more vulnerable to thugs.

[HALO141]

44. You clearly don't understand the issue.

Why the hell are you talking about "bring their loaded gun through security?" We're talking about the UNSECURED areas of the airport. Ticketing, baggage, etc. are UNSECURED. The shooting referenced above occurred in an UNSECURED area. Only ticketed passengers are allowed through security anyway.

Travelers intent on boarding a flight will not be carrying. Their friends/family members who are dropping them off or picking them up may very well be. Many, many people who carry do so all the time. They don't say to themselves, "Whoa... I'm going to the airport. Better gun-up!" Dropping someone off or picking them up at an airport is no different than going anywhere else. It's just one of the many things they have to do that day.

[Glassunion]

46. Simple...

I travel to the airport to pick people up and drop them off. No need to enter the secure area of the airport at all.